Home Invasion Score: BG-0 GG-2

glock75 · Post by **glock75** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:02 am

Home invasion leads to one death
By Jennifer Steeley, Staff Writer Beaumont Examiner

BEAUMONT, TEXAS â€“ Beaumont Police officers responded to the 6000 block of Major Dr. Sept. 15 at approximately 8:37 p.m. on reports of a home invasion. Once officers arrived at the scene, the alleged perpetrators had already been apprehended â€¦ by the victim.

According to the victim, he was in his residence when he heard a knock at the door. When the door was opened, two Hispanic men allegedly forced their way into the home, brandishing knives.

The victim stated that, at that time, the two suspects demanded money. The victim went to the bedroom, followed by one of the suspects, and retrieved some money from the bedside table. The suspect did not notice the handgun belonging to the victim that was also in the bedside table, but the victim did. The suspect then, according to the victim, turned to rummage through the closet, presumably searching for more money.

The victim stated that he ordered the suspect to drop his knife. The second suspect entered the bedroom but would not drop his weapon. The victim fired three shots at the second suspect, wounding him in the left arm, the left leg and the left side. During the commotion, the first suspect retrieved his knife. The victim fired one round at the first suspect, wounding him in the left side of his chest.

Responding officers called EMS to transport the suspects to Christus St. Elizabeth Hospital. The suspect who received injuries to the chest received emergency treatment for his injuries but died a short time after arriving at the hospital. The status of the second suspect is unverified.

Mithras61 · Post by **Mithras61** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:32 am

Looks like an argument for larger magazines to me. The victim shot four times. If he had what seems like a wheelgun these days, that left him one in the wheel after shooting one BG 3x and one 1x.

If Mr. 1x decided to get rowdy, the victim may have had a problem

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spud · Post by **spud** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:47 am

This is why I think every home needs a shotgun.

Syntax360 · Post by **Syntax360** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:15 pm

I doubt the homeowner would have been able to retrieve a shotgun without the BG's noticing. I think it would be more likely that the BGs would have found the shotgun first and been better armed, or if it was hidden well enough, it never would have been retrieved.

Sounds like the situation went down exactly as it should. Good for the homeowner! Too bad all stories don't end like this.

KD5NRH · Post by **KD5NRH** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:40 pm

Syntax360 wrote:I doubt the homeowner would have been able to retrieve a shotgun without the BG's noticing.

Sure; if he got it before answering the door. Unexpected guests around here are greeted with a combo-stocked Mossberg ready and barely out of sight behind my leg.

scooter03 · Post by **scooter03** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:57 pm

KD5NRH wrote:
Syntax360 wrote:I doubt the homeowner would have been able to retrieve a shotgun without the BG's noticing.
Sure; if he got it before answering the door. Unexpected guests around here are greeted with a combo-stocked Mossberg ready and barely out of sight behind my leg.

just think if the person being robbed would have already had his arm, holstered and ready by his side(unable to be seen of course) they might not have made it that far. We all have to be secure and alert.

Post by **carlson1** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:26 pm

spud wrote:This is why I think every home needs a shotgun.

+1 This for that very purpose:

Not much money invested, but will take care of the job and the DA can have it when the smoke clears.

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:42 pm

What kind of shot gun is it and how much did it cost?

Post by **carlson1** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:06 pm

Venus Pax wrote:What kind of shot gun is it and how much did it cost?

Mossberg 500. I bought it from an officer that is north of me for $125, then I added the pistol grip that was used for $20 and the light was on sale at Ajax grips for $29.99. Everything less than $200 and it shoots great. It is also chambered for 3" magnums that carry a punch.

jbirds1210 · Post by **jbirds1210** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:14 pm

Venus-

I picked my Mossberg up at a garage sale and purchased the pieces for pistol grip and such seperately....150 bucks total investment. It is not comfortable to shoot with buckshot, but is not bad with birdshot. Birdshot does just fine in the distance I require at home.

Mine looks like an old beater.....but it does a great job sitting behind my bedroom door

KD5NRH · Post by **KD5NRH** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:14 am

jbirds1210 wrote:I picked my Mossberg up at a garage sale and purchased the pieces for pistol grip and such seperately....150 bucks total investment. It is not comfortable to shoot with buckshot, but is not bad with birdshot. Birdshot does just fine in the distance I require at home.

Have you tried any of the S&B or Hornady low-recoil 00 Buck? In my experience, it's not much worse than birdshot for comfort, but beats the heck out of it for penetration.

Personally, I never saw much sense in ruining a long gun by taking the stock completely off. If I can shoot little stuff without it, I can shoot bigger, more effective stuff with it, and it provides a good place to stash some extra ammo.

jbirds1210 · Post by **jbirds1210** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:10 pm

Personally, I never saw much sense in ruining a long gun by taking the stock completely off.[/quote]

Much easier to throw in the floor board of my car (Corolla) or stick in a suitcase for hotel room transport. I guess it comes down to personal preference. The shots I designed my home defense shotgun for are generally less than 15 feet. I am very confident with my choice. I also have a couple of scatterguns with a full stock, I love those too, but they are not behind my door.
Jason

1TallTXn · Post by **1TallTXn** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:45 pm

sound like the shooter needs to work on his aim.

most bedrooms aren't that big to be more then ~15ft away at any time. I would think you could put the rds into CoM very easily at that distance!

I'm not that great of a shot, but at 15ft I can put them all in a quite small target.

now taking into account the stress of the situation will have a factor in the accuracy, but it sounds like the guy had his head on pretty straight. telling the BG to drop it before firing.

stevie_d_64 · Post by **stevie_d_64** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:50 pm

I guess I keep scratching my head on this as to "why" someone would "open" their front door in the first place, until I know for sure who it is, and who's with them???

HankB · Post by **HankB** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:50 am

The victim fired three shots at the second suspect, wounding him in the left arm, the left leg and the left side.

Looks like an argument for larger magazines to me.

Looks like an argument for better shot placement to me - I concur with 1TallTXn

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Home Invasion Score: BG-0 GG-2

Home Invasion Score: BG-0 GG-2

Looks like an argument for larger magazines...