CHL Instructer says to re-arm in full view of public

[Skaven]

I attended my CHL class mid Feb. During the instruction, the man teaching the class says that when he gets off an airplane, and retrieves his luggage, he publicly re-arms in the airport. (does not go to the bathroom, but takes his gun out of his bag, puts a loaded magazine in, racks the slide, and then holsters.) He said it is not brandishing because he does not do it to cause alarm. I kinda get the feeling that the repercussions of this may be bad. What do you guys thing?

[MoJo]

The man is an I dee ten T. Good way to get shot I think.

[RPB]

not brandishing because he does not do it to cause alarm

Texas doesn't have "brandishing" he means disorderly conduct

but Texas DOES have ...
"intentional failure to conceal," you'll get CHL revoked, get arrested, and ....

Sounds like someone needs to revisit the Statutes.

[Mel]

There must be something I don't understand here.
How is that not "Intentionally un-concealing"?

[TexDotCom]

What do you guys think?

I think a) this man has *no* business teaching a CHL class, much less having one of his own and b) he's, as my mother used to say when I was growing up, "cruisin' for a bruisin'."

UNintentional failure to conceal is not penalized because you weren't showing your firearm in a manner intended to alarm. Call me crazy, but I think slapping in a mag and racking one into the pipe in an airport, especially nowadays, cannot fail to cause alarm and you'd have to be insane to think otherwise!

[TexDotCom]

There must be something I don't understand here.
How is that not "Intentionally un-concealing"?

It absolutely *is* intentional un-concealing. Proof positive that this person does not comprehend the statutes and certainly has no business teaching others about them.

[Skaven]

Should I report him to DPS, or just hope that no one he teaches gets thrown in prison?

[Jasonw560]

this man is a test case waiting to happen. He shouldn't have his own class.

[RPB]

Sounds like he is confused

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... /PE.42.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
PENAL CODE
TITLE 9. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND DECENCY
Sec. 42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:
(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;

and forgot

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/d ... /PE.46.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
...
(g) An offense under Subsection (a), (b), (c), (d), or (e) is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the offense is committed under Subsection (b)(1) or (b)(3), in which event the offense is a felony of the third degree.


Any Class A or B misdemeanor or disorderly conduct conviction can get your CHL revoked. . (Plus you'd have to deal with all associated troubles of a Class A misdemeanor)

[RPB]

Should I report him to DPS, or just hope that no one he teaches gets thrown in prison?

Personally, I'd e-mail/contact him and ask how he can say such a thing when it conflicts with
Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a)
Any Class A or B misdemeanor or disorderly conduct conviction can get your CHL revoked. . (Plus you'd have to deal with all associated troubles of a Class A misdemeanor)

If he doesn't understand, repeat and take a witness (CC a lawyer?) ..., if he still doesn't "get it" bring him before the whole congregation.

[Skaven]

Good idea, I think what I will do is shoot him an email asking to clarify, including the specific penal code which is in question.

[WildBill]

Good idea, I think what I will do is shoot him an email asking to clarify, including the specific penal code which is in question.

Please let us know his response.

[Purplehood]

I attended my CHL class mid Feb. During the instruction, the man teaching the class says that when he gets off an airplane, and retrieves his luggage, he publicly re-arms in the airport. (does not go to the bathroom, but takes his gun out of his bag, puts a loaded magazine in, racks the slide, and then holsters.) He said it is not brandishing because he does not do it to cause alarm. I kinda get the feeling that the repercussions of this may be bad. What do you guys thing?

There is really nothing nice that I can say about the guy.

[Skaven]

I wrote a very polite email, asking him to explain what was up. I will follow up when I get a response.

[longtooth]

I attended my CHL class mid Feb. During the instruction, the man teaching the class says that when he gets off an airplane, and retrieves his luggage, he publicly re-arms in the airport. (does not go to the bathroom, but takes his gun out of his bag, puts a loaded magazine in, racks the slide, and then holsters.) He said it is not brandishing because he does not do it to cause alarm. I kinda get the feeling that the repercussions of this may be bad. What do you guys thing?