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Something very strange and eery happened yesterday. Seemed like a normal event - until I did a little Google research.

Yesterday afternoon my mother gave me one of my late grandmother's old handguns that my mom had stored in a box in the attic for years (grandma passed away 24 years ago). I'm the "gun guy" in my family (my parents never owned guns), so any old guns that my uncles don't grab are eventually passed down to me (have my grandpa's old .22 rifle, my other grandpa's old .410 shotgun, etc).

It's a quirky little .22LR snub-nose revolver with a very strange cylinder rod that has to be unscrewed and removed from the frame in order to open the cylinder (not ideal for fast reloads :totap: ). From the construction quality, obviously it's a cheap Saturday Night Special - probably something my grandpa picked up just so grandma would have "something to protect herself". But it's in decent shape, doesn't look to have been fired much. No major rust and overall very clean.

The gun is stamped "MOD. RG 14 CAL. .22 LR RG IND. MIAMI, FLA"

So here's where it gets weird. Quick Google search confirmed this was a cheap SNS, imported from Röhm GmbH of Sontheim/Brenz, Germany. It also revealed that this was the same brand and model that John Hinckley used to shoot President Reagan, James Brady, Secret Service agent Tim McCarthy, and DC police officer Thomas Delahanty.

OK, interesting piece of historical trivia - like owning a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. This RG 14 is the same make/model of gun that sent Sarah Brady into her decades-long tizzy.

But then I remembered all the recent media stories about the Reagan assassination attempt and looked up the date. According to wikipedia, he was shot at 2:27 pm on March 30, 1981.

My mother gave me this gun at approximately 2:30 pm yesterday, March 30, 2011 ... nearly 30 years to the minute after Reagan was shot with an identical gun.

Now that's a little eery ... :leaving
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austinrealtor wrote:Now that's a little eery ... :leaving
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doo doo doo doo... you have just entered 'The Twilight Zone'. :shock:
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I have an RG-14 snub myself. Do a bit of google-fu for Rhom and also Hinckley assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan and you may be surprised.
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mr surveyor wrote:I have an RG-14 snub myself. Do a bit of google-fu for Rhom and also Hinckley assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan and you may be surprised.
Is this what you're referring to?

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Don't knock the Rohm. I have a 6" single action .22 revolver that was my saddlebag/truck gun for 35 years. Carried it horseback and thrown under the seat of pickup or whatever for a long time. Yea, the bluing is mostly gone and the plastic grips are cracked and ugly, but it still shoots after use and abuse. We used to load up with rat shot when we had to bring a bunch of bulls out of the bull pastures in order to sort and turn out with the cows. If you have never tried to get 30-40 bulls moving--you don't know the effort. We fed out bulls also and after a lifetime of hearing a pistol, most bulls would start up by just shooing into the ground for noise. I even carried a blank starting pistol for a while in saddlebags. Just a little rat shot in the hindquarters of the lead bull or so and away we go--good for the snake in the grass sometimes also.

Yes, I have newer and nicer pistols, but the grand kids love to shoot this oldie. IIt has also probably been worth the $55, I paid for it new. It seems to have character and I never worried about it getting lost or stolen out of the truck. This is another story, but the only gun I have ever had stolen was out of my truck at Church on a Sunday morning, Athens Texas 1968.
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Had a Rohm 38S .38 back in the early '70's and it was a piece of junk. Was bought brand new. Only took about 700-800 rounds before the timing and lockup were so far off that it was shaving lead off the bullets as they entered the forcing cone. Figured that out when I was feeling splatter from the cylinder gap on my hand. shock:

Got to looking at it closer and the cylinder ratchet and pawl were already so worn it was allowing a lot of slop. Found the parts were mostly pot metal except for the frame. :banghead:

Some of the earlier Rohm stuff may have been OK, but you could pay me enough to take a 70's model Rohm off your hands (well, actually you could, only so it would be OUT of your hands and into the scrap heap.)
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Bear67 wrote:Don't knock the Rohm. I have a 6" single action .22 revolver that was my saddlebag/truck gun for 35 years.
Yes, I have newer and nicer pistols, but the grand kids love to shoot this oldie. IIt has also probably been worth the $55, I paid for it new. It seems to have character and I never worried about it getting lost or stolen out of the truck. This is another story, but the only gun I have ever had stolen was out of my truck at Church on a Sunday morning, Athens Texas 1968.
That must be one of those "itty bitty guns" that Nancy Reagan was talking about.
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I've carried mine as a snake gun (although rather impotent on the larger copperheadedcottonmouthcoralwaterrattlers) for many years. My Dad originally bought it for my Mom back in the mid 70's to carry in her purse when making trips to the bank with large deposits for her employer. I stopped carrying the puny 22 snake shot several years ago in favor of .38/.357.

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still functions fine. And, there are still parts available if you know how to find them.


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that looks just like my grandma's old gun. Except yours must have the "upgraded" walnut-colored plastic grips with the "gold" inlay RG14 model logo :thumbs2: mine just has basic caliche-colored plastic grips without basic logo stamped same color into the plastic. :grumble

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glad to hear a few good reviews of it. I doubt i'll use it for much. probably shoot a few rounds through it, then put it in the safe next to grandpa's now non-functioning.22 rifle (broken firing pin). take it out when my daughter is old enough to shoot and let her learn with it before stepping up to a real caliber.
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Rohm GMBH SONTHEIM7BRZ .22lr and also a .22 mag. cylinder. Double action. It was my father-in-laws, he died about 7 yrs. ago. Really I guess it's my brother-in-laws but it's been in my safe since then. From what I could find out, even though it's German their quality is not highly thought of.
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glbedd53 wrote:Rohm GMBH SONTHEIM7BRZ .22lr and also a .22 mag. cylinder. Double action. It was my father-in-laws, he died about 7 yrs. ago. Really I guess it's my brother-in-laws but it's been in my safe since then. From what I could find out, even though it's German their quality is not highly thought of.

your's must be pre-1968?

If I remember my "history", Rhom had to stop importing finished products about that time and RG (which I think stood for nothing in particular) came into existence in Miami where the parts were shipped in from Germany and "assembled" in little more than sweat shop conditions. I think the RG14 sold for about $15-20 and the RG38 (.38 cal) sold for about $25.

Just for grins, I have been known to take my old RG14 into the shops and ask for it's trade value on a new pistol...I've been told anything from 10 bucks to "get that piece of junk out of my shop before a customer sees it :mrgreen:. Yep, they were cheap and very poorly made, but for a person down on their luck or barely eeeking out a living, they could provide a modicom of protection. Much, much better quality (and I use the term loosely) than the famous "ring og fire" products (Lorcin, Davis, Ravin, Jiminez, etc). Since mine still works, it's worth more to me than the $10-15 it might sell or trade for (at least if dealing with a knowledgeable person) just to leave in my office desk drawer loaded with those evil "exploding .22 caliber hollow points" (heard that phrase used by one of the city boy pin heads on Fox News the other night).


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I've got one that I've considered taking to one of the DFW area 'Buy-Back' programs, but just can't bring myself to even appear to support such lunacy. :roll:
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even though it is considered a cheap piece of junk by today's standards, my old RG-14 still functions fine. Why would I want to see a functional firearm destroyed for $50-100 to support such a sleazy program? Especially one with a tiny bit of sentimental attachment.
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mr surveyor wrote:even though it is considered a cheap piece of junk by today's standards, my old RG-14 still functions fine. Why would I want to see a functional firearm destroyed for $50-100 to support such a sleazy program? Especially one with a tiny bit of sentimental attachment.
Well,, I would agree, but mine is probably not an RG-14. It's chambered for 22 Short and only fires about every third trigger pull. It was given to me by someone at work and I've just kept it. Don't really know why. But, you're right, my reluctance to support the "sleazy programs" is exactly why I still have it (though $50 would be nice :roll: )
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