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Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:34 am
by whenifly1
Does anyone know if concealed carry is OK at Six Flags Fiesta Texas in San Antonio? I do not recall seeing any 30.06 signs, but I do know they make everyone go through a metal detector and they also check all your carry-in bags. Thank you for your inputs.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:39 am
by RPB
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I know Sea World is now posted
I'd bet Six Flags Fiesta Texas is posted (It used to be, I'm sure it still is) (They searched my fanny pack and held my knife for me to pick up when I left ... had trouble finding it when I wanted it back... next time I'll leave knives in the car)
So, in a nutshell, I'm pretty certain it's off limits.
Also:

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Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:03 am
by RoyGBiv
FWIW, searching "Six Flags" here http://texas3006.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; only turns up the Arlington location.
Searching "Fiesta" only turns up one location for a grocery store.

If you go, and you find a 30.06 in SA, please add it to the database over there..

Cheers.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:03 am
by RPB
Oddly, I do Not see it listed on http://www.texas3006.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but that just means either CHLs don't go there due to them not respecting our rights, or that no one submitted it yet to http://www.texas3006.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you go and see a 30.06 sign, please submit it to http://www.texas3006.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks RoygBiv
Youvbeat me to it by seconds ... I have a slower interweb connection "rlol"

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:13 am
by G26ster
What about PC 46.035?

Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:

(5) in an amusement park;

(f) In this section:

(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:23 am
by Hoi Polloi
G26ster wrote:What about PC 46.035?

Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:

(5) in an amusement park;

(f) In this section:

(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
Keep reading!
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:32 am
by G26ster
Ooops! ;-)

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:24 pm
by Jasonw560
Google's a wonderful thing....
http://www.sixflags.com/fiestaTexas/inf ... icies.aspx

Just have to see if there's an actual sign out front, or in the parking lot leading in to it.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:27 pm
by Thomas
Jasonw560 wrote:Google's a wonderful thing....
http://www.sixflags.com/fiestaTexas/inf ... icies.aspx
In Texas, wouldn't those park policies be worthless for a CLH? If they find out, they can ask you to leave (and if you refuse then you would be trespassing). Otherwise you are not trespassing because effective notice was not given (if they are just relying on the "policies" on a website).

A CHL would only be legally prohibited if all of the conditions are met:

(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:45 pm
by C-dub
Park policy is worthless, but they usually back it up with a 30.06 sign and or metal detectors or wands and search bags. So, even if they do not have a 30.06 sign and they discover it they will tell you that you cannot bring that in.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:43 pm
by RoyGBiv
Thanks RoygBiv
Youvbeat me to it by seconds ... I have a slower interweb connection "rlol"
Where's the "raspberry" smilie? ;-)

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:02 pm
by TexDotCom
I didn't see firearms addressed in a quick perusal of their FAQs, but I did see no smoking, no outside food or drink, and no laser pointers. (for the safety of their staff and guests)

I might be taking the kiddo in a couple of weeks when I drive down from Richardson to watch another of his baseball games. If so, I'll look around and take pics/post on tx3006, etc.

I have had the experience of them taking my knife from me at the gate. Ironically, it's one I bought and carried in the sandbox and says plainly, "Operation Iraqi Freedom Certified". They took it from me when they gave me free entry into the park during the celebration of "American Heroes." (I don't claim that title...I just gave some; some gave all. That's just the title they gave me while they also disarmed me!)


:txflag:

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:35 am
by Purplehood
TexDotCom wrote:I didn't see firearms addressed in a quick perusal of their FAQs, but I did see no smoking, no outside food or drink, and no laser pointers. (for the safety of their staff and guests)

I might be taking the kiddo in a couple of weeks when I drive down from Richardson to watch another of his baseball games. If so, I'll look around and take pics/post on tx3006, etc.

I have had the experience of them taking my knife from me at the gate. Ironically, it's one I bought and carried in the sandbox and says plainly, "Operation Iraqi Freedom Certified". They took it from me when they gave me free entry into the park during the celebration of "American Heroes." (I don't claim that title...I just gave some; some gave all. That's just the title they gave me while they also disarmed me!)


:txflag:
It's all good when you are outside the country. When you are inside, you need to act like the rest of the sheeple.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:10 am
by rm9792
G26ster wrote:Ooops! ;-)
Yet another reason to remove that section. It is confusing and unnececessary.

Re: Is Concealed Carry Legal at Fiesta Texas, San Antonio?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:12 am
by rm9792
Thomas wrote:
Jasonw560 wrote:Google's a wonderful thing....
http://www.sixflags.com/fiestaTexas/inf ... icies.aspx
In Texas, wouldn't those park policies be worthless for a CLH? If they find out, they can ask you to leave (and if you refuse then you would be trespassing). Otherwise you are not trespassing because effective notice was not given (if they are just relying on the "policies" on a website).

A CHL would only be legally prohibited if all of the conditions are met:

(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
You didnt read all the section you posted. They still have to post 30.06, the above is essentially meaningless. It is an old section of law.