Love the way the ATF says things without really giving any info, but making it sound like they are doing a GREAT job.
http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2011/ ... -omaha.pdf
ATF great job spin
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What did they not say?The 55 defendants have a total of 2,637 previous contacts with law enforcement, 255 arrests, 52 felony convictions and 151 misdemeanor convictions. The investigation resulted in the seizure of more than 70 firearms and illegal drugs with a street value of over $50,000. Some of the drugs seized includePCP, methamphetamine, crack cocaine, marijuana and prescription narcotics.
It should not come as a surprise to anyone on this forum that there are criminals in this country. Some of them are gangsters engaged in "organized crime." They will sell drugs to your kids, given the opportunity. They will commit any violent crime to promote their own interests.
Someone has to identify and arrest them. How is that supposed to work?
- Jim
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One thing is over 2000 contacts with the law. When you add the other numbers up, some are missing. It sounds like 52 of the 55 arrested are convicted felons, or does any of the 55 have more than one felony conviction.
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I don't know. I don't care.
Most felons are repeat offenders. Usually they can plea bargain to a misdemeanor the first time they are prosecuted. After that the cops keep rounding them up and the parole boards keep letting them out.
The neat thing about federal prosecution is that the sentences are long and there is no parole.
The phone numbers of the U.S. and county attorneys are in the press release. The arrest warrants are public information that they have to give you if you ask for them.
P.S.: I'm sorry if I sound confrontational. Every federal agency has made major screw-ups, but a lot of the time they do jobs that actually need to be done.
I personally would not want to cope with 55 gangsters. If nothing else, my trigger finger would get tired.
- Jim
Most felons are repeat offenders. Usually they can plea bargain to a misdemeanor the first time they are prosecuted. After that the cops keep rounding them up and the parole boards keep letting them out.
The neat thing about federal prosecution is that the sentences are long and there is no parole.
The phone numbers of the U.S. and county attorneys are in the press release. The arrest warrants are public information that they have to give you if you ask for them.
P.S.: I'm sorry if I sound confrontational. Every federal agency has made major screw-ups, but a lot of the time they do jobs that actually need to be done.
I personally would not want to cope with 55 gangsters. If nothing else, my trigger finger would get tired.
- Jim
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I wouldn't know what most any of the drugs listed even looked like, but from what I have heard a $50k pile of drugs might not even fill a large suitcase. Sounds like a lot of smoke blowing to me.
It's not gun control that we need, it's soul control!
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I don't understand the hostile attitudes here. Can someone explain the situation in simple words and short sentences?
- Jim
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