Question about carrying Government owned property

[JMCruz]

Sorry if this has been posted before, but I couldn't find it. Can someone please tell me where in the Texas Penal Code (or wherever it may be) it says that you can carry on state owned property? I have a friend who wants me to take her to a WIC Class. I know that WIC is a Texas program so I'm sure that it is state owned. If anybody can give me information on this I would greatly appreciate it.

[C-dub]

Good morning JM.

The code will not tell you where you CAN carry. It only tells you where you CANNOT carry. Here are a few restricted government places. I might forget a couple.

1. Building with a court.
2. Jails.
3. Within 1000 feet of jail on execution day.
4. Secure area of airport, whether government owned or not.
5. Secure area of police station. I think this might have to do with the possibility that they may have holding cells back there and also the fact that they can disarm us anytime they want for safety.

What did I leave out?

[suthdj]

I thought WIC was a federal program not state?

[RPB]

I thought WIC was a federal program not state?

That's an interesting thing I ran across too.

Program versus Property

Federal Programs Administered by State Agencies located on State Property (or Privately owned Property leased to "someone" or a State agency or Federal Govt or Charitable Organization who gives/rents space to administer State/Federal programs))

There's a building in a nearby city, which used to be called the "Community Outreach" building or something... One founder of AOL started a "One stop" helping center years ago so people could apply for food stamps, flood assistance, medicare, medicaid, look on computers for a job, get referred to food banks at churches or get other help. Some programs people sign up for there there are private, some are State and some are Federal.

Things like Meals-On-Wheels, CARTS (transportation to doctors etc) Medicare/Medicaid/Food Stamps for pregnant women, and some "Federal Programs" which are "administered" by Texas HHS/Health and Human Services" etc (And reduced cost dental signup at a dental clinic sponsored by the Rotary Club where the dentist is located in a building provided at a Baptist Church but you sign up in the SAME State's (or private) Medicaid office, because they use the same qualifications as medicaid or something) at the STATE Office buildings (or in privately owned buildings leased to a State Agency which administers Federal programs)

I noticed one such "COMMUNITY RESOURCE" building which has non-profit help, private agency referrals, Medicaid signup at the STATE TX HHS-Medicaid office had a gunbuster sign which said "No firearms allowed" and the first time I took someone there, I disarmed, after that I didn't because it's either a private property with State agencies administering Federal programs (and no 30.06 sign), or State owned property which administers Federal programs. There's no court, school or otherwise prohibited place in the building.

It would depend if it's State (property) offices, or Federal Property or ???(whose property is it?) rather than if it's a State or a Federal Program.

That contrasts with State offices DPS/County Tax office for license plates etc (where you normally could carry as drivers license/CHL issuance, license plates are State PROGRAMS administered by the State and County) leasing space in a COUNTY COURT ANNEX building with metal detectors at the door where I can't carry.



Who owns the property can often be found out from an (Online database some Counties) County Tax Appraiser/Assessor etc

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Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
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Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.

b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:

(1) on the premises of
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And "generally" Federally owned property is forbidden, unless it's exempted by laws such as National Park areas/Wildlife preserves etc managed by US Forestry Service, Fish and Wildlife/National Park Service etc (except not in building where employees work) Unless it's Army Corps of Engineers property which they are working on legalizing self protection rights, but currently illegal.

So the short version of all the above is I agree with C-dub if it's State owned property (Question about carrying Government owned property) and not otherwise prohibited, I'd carry.

I'm not a lawyer, but that's my layman's opinion

[JMCruz]

Well I looked up some more about the actually building (thank you google maps!!) it turns out it's a medical center, so if it's 30.06 posted I can't carry. I will need to drive by before I take my friend.

Thank you so much for the information though. I was more curious on the law on carrying into state owned properties than anything else, and that was explained very well.

[Purplehood]

Well I looked up some more about the actually building (thank you google maps!!) it turns out it's a medical center, so if it's 30.06 posted I can't carry. I will need to drive by before I take my friend.

Thank you so much for the information though. I was more curious on the law on carrying into state owned properties than anything else, and that was explained very well.

If anything that is not State/Count/Municipal property is 30.06 posted you can't carry. I am not sure why you are singling out a medical center...