Have you fires a Sig 220?

TX Rancher · Post by **TX Rancher** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:23 pm

Has anyone tried the Sig P220 in single action? I've been reading about them lately, and would like to get some feedback from folks that have shot one...

Houston1944 · Post by **Houston1944** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:57 pm

I will probably look dumb asking this but it won't be the first time. I have a P220 and it is DA/SA. Is Sig now making the 220 in a SA only or are you just talking about firing it in the SA position?
My 220 is a smooth 8lbs on DA and 4 lbs on SA but that is because Teddy Jacobson did an action job on it several years ago.

G.C.Montgomery · Post by **G.C.Montgomery** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:11 am

Sig now offers single-action only versions of the P226 and P220. I've had a chance to put a couple hundred rounds through two samples of the P220 and the P226"X-Five."

The single-action trigger in the P220 felt much like a normal DA/SA P220 in single action mode. Felt like a five-pound trigger to me. My only complaint is the thumb-safety on all the P220SAO's I've handled required a bit more effort than I'd like to sterilize the gun. This only seems to be an issue on the P220SAO. The $2600 X-Five's safety feels secure but doesn't require excessive effort to engage. Sig is suppose to offer the P220SAO in a 5-inch barrel like the X-Five. A 5-inch 220, particularly if it has a steel frame might be worth owning.

TX Rancher · Post by **TX Rancher** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:04 pm

Thanks for the responses guys. So far my only experience with Sig's has been the P226 in 9mm. While I in general liked the P226, I was not at home with the DA/SA tigger. I have the same problem with my 92F. But I was impressed with the Sig workmanship. It seemed to be fine weapon, and at least the one I used was very reliable.

The idea of SAO and 45 ACP in a Sig sounds interesting to me...

Diode · Post by **Diode** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:05 pm

Is the thumb safety o nthe slide or frame? I guess I need ot find a picture of this .I had no clue they made one

G.C.Montgomery · Post by **G.C.Montgomery** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:11 pm

Thankfully, the safety is frame mounted as it should be. People who design guns with slide mounted control levers are idiots.

TX Rancher · Post by **TX Rancher** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:27 pm

For awhile at least, my question about the P220 has become a mute point. Today I made up my mind and picked up the XD 45 compact (I just liked the feel of it better, and the additional rounds is not bad either). It will take some time to get the funds back up to a level where I can look at another firearm

Texasdoc · Post by **Texasdoc** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:52 pm

Hey TX Rancher, Congrats on a XD, I think you will like it better then the Sig.

you can bring it out Saturday to the range and shoot it a bit .

300shooter

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:42 pm

TX Rancher wrote:Today I made up my mind and picked up the XD 45 compact

Where? How much? And where are the pictures?

After a couple of FTEjects this week, I've decided to trade away my P97, and go with something more compact. I'm really leaning to the XD45 Compact. It's about time a manufacturer came up with something so simple yet brilliant, as that grip extender on the high cap magazine.

Kevin

Diode · Post by **Diode** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:29 am

G.C.Montgomery wrote:Thankfully, the safety is frame mounted as it should be. People who design guns with slide mounted control levers are idiots.

casselthief · Post by **casselthief** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:01 pm

you mean like the 92FS?

Liberty · Post by **Liberty** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:36 pm

G.C.Montgomery wrote:Thankfully, the safety is frame mounted as it should be. People who design guns with slide mounted control levers are idiots.

I'm curious. Whats wrong with slide mounted safetys? I sort of prefer a Safety mounted high that can be operated by my strong hand thumb. Is there an inherent danger or problem with such a safety? or is it just a personal dislike for such a thing? Is there a hazard with such a control that I'm not aware of?

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:56 am

Liberty wrote:
G.C.Montgomery wrote:Thankfully, the safety is frame mounted as it should be. People who design guns with slide mounted control levers are idiots.
I'm curious. Whats wrong with slide mounted safetys?

The main safety should lock up three parts: trigger, firing pin, and hammer. That's very difficult to accomplish with a slide-mounted safety; it can be done, but it adds complexity.

I sort of prefer a Safety mounted high that can be operated by my strong hand thumb.

So do I. The frame-mounted safety on a 1911 rides plenty high when engaged; when disengaged, the thumb is in just the right place.

Kevin

TX Rancher · Post by **TX Rancher** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:34 am

300shooter:

I hope to make it out to the range today, but a lot will depend on the weather. Iâ€™ve got a couple cows that need doctoring, and if I can get it done early, Iâ€™ll make it out to the range. Youâ€™ll have to try this XD, I like the feel so farâ€¦

KBCraig:

I bought it at a local store, which means I paid too much for it. But I like supporting local gun shops, and the owner has always been very nice to me and quick to set things right. The pistol I bought from him prior to the XD I didnâ€™t have a holster for, and the one I wanted would take ~5-6 weeks to get here. He loaned me a holster to use until mine arrived. Iâ€™m willing to pay for that level of customer serviceâ€¦

Being a computer illiterate, pics will be a little hard for me (Iâ€™m lucky I can figure out how to turn the dang thing on!)

I like the extended mag for the XD. I get a reasonable sized weapon to conceal with 10+1 rounds of 45, and the reload mag holds 13. Thatâ€™s a fair amount of firepower for a handgun. The finger attachment on the extended mag can be removed, which makes it easier to conceal in the mag carrier. So far I like itâ€¦

Hopefully this weekend I'll get time to put a couple hundred rounds through it and have a better feel for it.

G.C.Montgomery · Post by **G.C.Montgomery** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:13 pm

Liberty wrote:
G.C.Montgomery wrote:Thankfully, the safety is frame mounted as it should be. People who design guns with slide mounted control levers are idiots.
I'm curious. Whats wrong with slide mounted safetys? I sort of prefer a Safety mounted high that can be operated by my strong hand thumb. Is there an inherent danger or problem with such a safety? or is it just a personal dislike for such a thing? Is there a hazard with such a control that I'm not aware of?

KB Craig hit some of the big complaints. I have others.

For instance, I also find that slide-mounted safeties get in the way of manipulating the slide when reducing stoppages. Slide mounted safeties aren't in an ideal position for all shooters to operate with their strong hand thumb. I finally decided it was a truly stupid design when I noticed students with smaller hands had to reach over with their support hand to decock pistols with slide mounted control levers. It's also possible to have this problem with frame mounted levers but you'd have to have hands like those of a small child.