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Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:28 pm
by Medic218
Here is what I'm working with at the moment....

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It's a great mount and holds nice and tight but I think it might be just a tad high.

What I want to do is lower it to where my scope sits as close to the actual rifle as possible.
The scope has a 40mm objective.
I've done a bit or research and I think the Burris Xtreme medium rings would fit the bill but I still want your input to make sure.
Any other suggestions that won't break the bank...i.e. LaRue or DD.

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:01 pm
by puma guy
Shoulder and make cheek placement on the stock, then have someone use a dowel and line it up with you eye holding it level/parallel with the receiver. Measure from the flat top and calculate ring height from there. Keep in mind you must have clearance for the objective and ocular bell.

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:09 pm
by rcasady
my rem 700 uses those same burris extreme med. rings with my 40mm scope .... love em , as tough as they look .... if i mount that scope on my AR it rides 1/2" off my rail .
ive never used lock tight in those mounts and they havent budges in 2 years .... makes me happy since ive shot off a few scopes / red dots

i think you made the right choice the first time and i will but them again when the time comes :cheers2:

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:17 pm
by The Annoyed Man
rcasady wrote:my rem 700 uses those same burris extreme med. rings with my 40mm scope .... love em , as tough as they look .... if i mount that scope on my AR it rides 1/2" off my rail .
ive never used lock tight in those mounts and they havent budges in 2 years .... makes me happy since ive shot off a few scopes / red dots

i think you made the right choice the first time and i will but them again when the time comes :cheers2:
The Burris XTR rings are pretty good. Also, check out the SWFA Super Sniper rings: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Mounts-C3054.aspx

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:23 pm
by Medic218
The Annoyed Man wrote:
rcasady wrote:my rem 700 uses those same burris extreme med. rings with my 40mm scope .... love em , as tough as they look .... if i mount that scope on my AR it rides 1/2" off my rail .
ive never used lock tight in those mounts and they havent budges in 2 years .... makes me happy since ive shot off a few scopes / red dots

i think you made the right choice the first time and i will but them again when the time comes :cheers2:
The Burris XTR rings are pretty good. Also, check out the SWFA Super Sniper rings: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Mounts-C3054.aspx
Price aside which would you choose?
Also, are the medium rings the ones I would most likely need?

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:48 pm
by AEA
Aluminum rings can strip out very easily. I would go with steel rings. :tiphat:

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:19 pm
by puma guy
MedicMan218 wrote:Here is what I'm working with at the moment....

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It appears the exit pupil of the scope is at least 3 inches above the comb of you butt stock. Do you use a typical cheek to stock position when you shoot? I just looked at my RRA EOP with a 6-24 and the exit pupil is 1-7/8" above the comb with Leupold quick release rings. 3" seem awfully high, but if it fits you that's what matters.
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Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:30 pm
by Medic218
AEA wrote:Aluminum rings can strip out very easily. I would go with steel rings. :tiphat:
Any suggestions as to steel rings?
puma guy wrote:
MedicMan218 wrote:Here is what I'm working with at the moment....

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It appears the exit pupil of the scope is at least 3 inches above the comb of you butt stock. Do you use a typical cheek to stock position when you shoot? I just looked at my RRA EOP with a 6-24 and the exit pupil is 1-7/8" above the comb with Leupold quick release rings. 3" seem awfully high, but if it fits you that's what matters.
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Nope, not a traditional cheek weld. Instead of my head being tilted a bit its almost completely vertical or at least more than a traditional cheek weld would be.
I have actually thought before that it would be more comfortable to shoot if I was able to get a mount that would hold my scope at an angle left to right just a hair.
Also, thanks for posting your picture too.

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:31 pm
by The Annoyed Man
MedicMan218 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
rcasady wrote:my rem 700 uses those same burris extreme med. rings with my 40mm scope .... love em , as tough as they look .... if i mount that scope on my AR it rides 1/2" off my rail .
ive never used lock tight in those mounts and they havent budges in 2 years .... makes me happy since ive shot off a few scopes / red dots

i think you made the right choice the first time and i will but them again when the time comes :cheers2:
The Burris XTR rings are pretty good. Also, check out the SWFA Super Sniper rings: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Mounts-C3054.aspx
Price aside which would you choose?
Also, are the medium rings the ones I would most likely need?
Does this answer that question?
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Those are the SWFA rings in that picture. I own a set of the Burris rings, and my son has them on one of his rifles. They are pretty good, but the SFWA rings are just as good, and they're a little bit cheaper.

As far as the ring height, I don't know for sure, but I think I'd go for the tall rings (http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Tac-30mm-1-Rings-P47907.aspx). You can always phone SFWA and tell them this is for an AR type of weapon and ask what height they recommend. Also, SWFA sells an integrated scope mount: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SSALT-30mm-Scope-Mount-P47828.aspx.

Here's a picture of what it looks like:
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Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:32 pm
by puma guy
MedicMan218 wrote:
AEA wrote:Aluminum rings can strip out very easily. I would go with steel rings. :tiphat:
Any suggestions as to steel rings?
puma guy wrote:
MedicMan218 wrote:Here is what I'm working with at the moment....

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It appears the exit pupil of the scope is at least 3 inches above the comb of you butt stock. Do you use a typical cheek to stock position when you shoot? I just looked at my RRA EOP with a 6-24 and the exit pupil is 1-7/8" above the comb with Leupold quick release rings. 3" seem awfully high, but if it fits you that's what matters.
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Nope, not a traditional cheek weld. Instead of my head being tilted a bit its almost completely vertical or at least more than a traditional cheek weld would be.
I have actually thought before that it would be more comfortable to shoot if I was able to get a mount that would hold my scope at an angle left to right just a hair.
Also, thanks for posting your picture too.
Ah! So! That explains a lot!

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:47 pm
by AEA
MedicMan218 wrote:Any suggestions as to steel rings?
A Google search for "Steel scope rings" will give you many choices.

Here is one:
http://www.theriflescopestore.com/wegrslallstr.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You just have to look at the description carefully.
There are Mfgs that offer both.

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:04 pm
by The Annoyed Man
AEA wrote:Aluminum rings can strip out very easily. I would go with steel rings. :tiphat:
It is true that steel rings won't strip out, but if you torque the screws to the specified values, the rings will be plenty tight enough and they won't strip out, even with aluminum rings. If weight is an issue, aluminum rings will of course weigh less.

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:31 pm
by RECIT
I'll agree with the recommendation for a scope mount and not just a set of rings. Burris makes a PEPR mount that is a good value without spending LaRue money.

Re: Scope Ring Suggestions Please

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:58 pm
by Medic218
RECIT wrote:I'll agree with the recommendation for a scope mount and not just a set of rings. Burris makes a PEPR mount that is a good value without spending LaRue money.
The dimensions and rise of the Burris PEPR are almost identical with the mount I have on there now. If I were to change it out it would be a lateral move IMO.
I might be good. I might have just been over thinking things.