No CHL at fort worth zoo

Superman · Post by **Superman** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:09 am

I just saw a 30.06 sign at the entrance of the forth worth zoo when you pay for parking... Not sure if it's a conforming sign or not, was going to look it up tonight. I'm waiting for my plastic still but I'm noticing and looking everywhere I go now :-)

speedsix · Post by **speedsix** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:35 am

...do a search here on "Ft. Worth Zoo", and you'll find out we've been monkeyin' 'round with this problem for awhile...

puma guy · Post by **puma guy** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:54 am

speedsix wrote:...do a search here on "Ft. Worth Zoo", and you'll find out we've been monkeyin' 'round with this problem for awhile...

Found this, but I don't know if this truly means private non-government ownership or not.
"Who owns the Fort Worth Zoo?
The Fort Worth Zoo is a non-profit 501(c)3 organization run by the Fort Worth Zoological Association. In 1991, the Fort Worth Zoological Association assumed management of the Zoo from the City of Fort Worth, forming a successful public-private partnership."

Probably already posted somewhere but here's the link.
http://www.fortworthzoo.org/plan-a-visit/zoo-facts/

speedsix · Post by **speedsix** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:01 pm

... http://www.fortworthzoo.org/about-us/history/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ...

...says the same...privately owned since '91...I found it while the Zoo had me on hold trying to find someone there that knew...they said "That man's not here today"...

Kythas · Post by **Kythas** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:14 pm

speedsix wrote:... http://www.fortworthzoo.org/about-us/history/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ...

...says the same...privately owned since '91...I found it while the Zoo had me on hold trying to find someone there that knew...they said "That man's not here today"...

Who owns the Fort Worth Zoo?
The Fort Worth Zoo is a non-profit 501(c)3 organization run by the Fort Worth Zoological Association. In 1991, the Fort Worth Zoological Association assumed management of the Zoo from the City of Fort Worth, forming a successful public-private partnership.

Not privately owned. Privately managed. The City of Ft Worth still owns it, much like the Dallas Zoo, I believe.

Nowhere in the language does it say the Ft Worth Zoological Association owns the zoo. It says they "run" it, and "assumed management" from the City of Ft Worth. A Wikipedia page about the zoo states: "In October 1991 the Fort Worth Zoological Association assumed management of the zoo under a contract with the city". This tells me the City still owns it and the Association merely manages it.

speedsix · Post by **speedsix** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:30 pm

...Article II Sec 2.01 on page 5 of the actual contract says you are correct...the website is misleading...especially in its answering of the question: Who owns the Fort Worth Zoo?

http://fortworthtexas.gov/uploadedFiles ... ntract.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Keith B** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:40 pm

City owned property, so 30.06 not valid. They have also tried to claim they are a 'school'. Unless they are accredited by the TEA and having regular classes to teach the gorilla's sign language, then I ain't buying that one either.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:37 pm

So is this the same with the Dallas zoo? City owned so not valid? Sorry of this topic hass been posted already...I'm just a noob being a noob :-)

speedsix · Post by **speedsix** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:52 pm

Superman wrote:So is this the same with the Dallas zoo? City owned so not valid? Sorry of this topic hass been posted already...I'm just a noob being a noob :-)

YOU are gonna search that one out...I'm tired....welcome and be sure to share with us what you find...that's what makes this place great...we all contribute and all learn...and it's cheap entertainment...

jimlongley · Post by **jimlongley** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:50 pm

Last time I was at the Fort Worth zoo, the sign was way inside the entrance, AFTER YOU PAY. That is not effective notice in my lexicon.

Lupine · Post by **Lupine** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:30 pm

Until they can 100% successfully keep all the wild animals (gorilla and human) secured, I'm carrying.

OldCannon · Post by **OldCannon** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:44 pm

Lupine wrote:Until they can 100% successfully keep all the wild animals (gorilla and human) secured, I'm carrying.

Whatever you carry won't stop a gorilla, unless you're very lucky or he's VERY slow

Superman · Post by **Superman** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:50 pm

OldCannon wrote:Whatever you carry won't stop a gorilla, unless you're very lucky or he's VERY slow

Some people say that about me...but I digress...

mossytxn · Post by **mossytxn** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:27 pm

I was at the Dallas zoo last weekend and looked hard for the sign that others have seen. Could not find it at all.

fickman · Post by **fickman** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:06 pm

I've found the unenforceable signs to be an ineffective deterrent to my carrying habits.

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