New product I just ran across.

spud · Post by **spud** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:41 pm

http://www.betterhomesecurity.com/_Ligh ... ef=flshstg

Streetwise Stun Guns have led the stun gun industry by continually introducing new and innovative stun guns. The Streetwise Small Fry models changed the perception that high-powered stun guns needed to be a big and bulky by being so small they fit inside a pack of cigarettes. Now Streetwise is proud to introduce the Lightning Rod which is an 800,000 volt stun pen and LED flashlight.
Dimensions: Cylindrical - 6"L x 1" diam.

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Looks to be a decent idea. Dosnt look too big to still function as a flashlight. Plus the added "bang" of a stun-gun.

Might be a new addition to my girlfriends purse.

hi-power · Post by **hi-power** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:47 pm

Not a bad idea. And not expensive either.

(Good handle. My brother's nickname was spud).

Paladin · Post by **Paladin** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:38 pm

Looks like a decent website to get a security sign from (if you don't already have one).

http://www.betterhomesecurity.com/produ ... ef=flshstg

9mmGuy · Post by **9mmGuy** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:11 pm

I have a streamlight LED pen light that i use at work. and they are REALLY handy. very bright too with new batteries. I could always use one with a stun gun on it!

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:13 pm

Has anyone ever found any info, good or bad, on these stun guns?
I wouldn't mind having one, as mine is big and obvious, but wouldn't want it if the company has a reputation for bad products.

Boma · Post by **Boma** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:44 am

what are the laws on stun guns? can we have them in a school dorm? post office or any area where there is a valid 30.06 sign?

Geopagus · Post by **Geopagus** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:21 am

Venus Pax wrote:

Has anyone ever found any info, good or bad, on these stun guns?
I wouldn't mind having one, as mine is big and obvious, but wouldn't want it if the company has a reputation for bad products.

I can't say anything good or bad for the particular model mentioned in this thread, but I do own two other streetwise model stun devices. They both work just fine.

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:31 am

Thanks for replying. I ordered one, since they aren't too expensive and no one really gave a reason NOT to.
I'll do a more thorough examination of it when it arrives in the mail and give my report.
If they aren't too bad, these things could be good gifts for the non-gun toters in our lives.
I'm thinking my mom & goofy sisters might like them. (And since it isn't a real gun and can't just fire itself, my sister might actually carry it.)

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:22 pm

Boma wrote:what are the laws on stun guns? can we have them in a school dorm? post office or any area where there is a valid 30.06 sign?

30.06 signs apply to handguns, which are firearms.

The name "stun gun" is misleading, as it does not fire anything from the device. It has electrical contacts that require you to touch the subject with the device and hold the trigger for 2-3 deconds.

Currently, these devices are not regulated under Texas Law.

Geopagus · Post by **Geopagus** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:57 am

A word of caution for those who possess stun devices for personal protection. If the batteries in these devices are subjected to cold temperatures for a length of time, the device will most likely not function. Let me give you an example. Don't expect your stun device to work in the morning if left in the car overnight during a cold winter night like we have this evening. This is a temporary phenomenom until the batteries are brought back to more reasonable temps.

TX Rancher · Post by **TX Rancher** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:45 am

Venus Pax wrote:Thanks for replying. I ordered one, since they aren't too expensive and no one really gave a reason NOT to.
I'll do a more thorough examination of it when it arrives in the mail and give my report.

Venus:

I for one would be very interested in a review once you get your stun pen. Iâ€™m particularly interested in your findings on how fast you can put it into operation. Their web site posts:

â€œâ€¦to prevent the stun gun from accidentally discharging, three levels of safety have been built in. The protective cap must be removed, the safety switch must be in the "on" position, (this will cause a red LED warning light to come on) and the trigger pressed down.â€?

That may be a lot of stuff to go through if you need the pen fast. What if you have to do it one handed?

Geopagus:

You mentioned the batteries not working right after a cold Texas night. Are you sure itâ€™s the batteries fault and not the pen? I thought CR2â€™s were lithium based batteries with a low end temp in the range of -20C to -30C (-4F to -22F if I did the math right). If thatâ€™s right, leaving it out in your car overnight shouldnâ€™t be a problem.

The web site didnâ€™t give the specs on the pen, maybe it doesnâ€™t like cold tempsâ€¦

Geopagus · Post by **Geopagus** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:16 pm

TX Rancher wrote:

Geopagus:

You mentioned the batteries not working right after a cold Texas night. Are you sure itâ€™s the batteries fault and not the pen? I thought CR2â€™s were lithium based batteries with a low end temp in the range of -20C to -30C (-4F to -22F if I did the math right). If thatâ€™s right, leaving it out in your car overnight shouldnâ€™t be a problem.

The web site didnâ€™t give the specs on the pen, maybe it doesnâ€™t like cold tempsâ€¦

Actually, in an earlier post in this thread, I mentioned that I do not own the pen stun device from Streetwise. However, I do own 2 other of their products. The particular stun devices that I own require regular 9V batteries. They will not work when subjected to a "cold Texas night." But, alas when things warm up the stun devices work just fine. Hence, the batteries are to blame. And by no means am I any sort of chemical engineer, so please do not ask me to explain the chemical reactions as to why this occurs.

Also, once again for the record, the stun devices from Streetwise do work as advertised. At least mine do. I apologize for any confusion.

TX Rancher · Post by **TX Rancher** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:10 pm

Geopagus wrote: Actually, in an earlier post in this thread, I mentioned that I do not own the pen stun device from Streetwise. However, I do own 2 other of their products. The particular stun devices that I own require regular 9V batteries. They will not work when subjected to a "cold Texas night." But, alas when things warm up the stun devices work just fine. Hence, the batteries are to blame. And by no means am I any sort of chemical engineer, so please do not ask me to explain the chemical reactions as to why this occurs. Also, once again for the record, the stun devices from Streetwise do work as advertised. At least mine do. I apologize for any confusion.

That makes sense, standard battery technology doesn't much care for cold temps. That's one of the advantages to Lithium based batteries. Thanks for the clarification

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:36 pm

Geo & TX rancher:
Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't aware about the batteries. I"ve been leaving my other stun gun in my car. I now know this to be an unwise decision; I appreciate the warning.

I didn't read enough on this little tool to know that it has three layers of protection. I'll play around with it when I get it and see what can be done with it, if anything. It may very well turn out to be an over-priced flashlight with a little pizazz. In which case, it will be fortunate that I didn't purchase more!

I'll give you my feedback when it arrives and I've tooled around with it.

Boma · Post by **Boma** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:17 am

how does a stun gun powered by a 9V battery pack enough juice to incapacitate someone? I've been shocked by a 9V by touching the + and - ends with wires as a kid and it's not that strong.