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What's next for the Tea Party movement?

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Tread Upon: What’s Next for the Tea Party?
Protest and politics failed. Time to revive the culture.
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On the night of the election, once it became clear which course the nation chose, I received an email from a fellow activist with the subject line “1776-2012,” a pronouncement of death for the idea that was America. While many may dismiss such proclamations as sour grapes, reflection confirms more truth than hyperbole.

Consider: If the quintessential American idea is the one articulated in our Declaration of Independence, “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,” then the developments of the past four years culminating in the re-election of the most radical executive in the nation’s history is its eulogy.

The passage of Obamacare demonstrated that the Democratic Party was willing to abandon all pretense of representative government in order to secure power over individual lives. The upholding of that law by the Supreme Court demonstrated that the Constitution is effectively meaningless. Tragic as those developments were, this — the electoral affirmation of President Barack Obama — is a crowning catastrophe. It signals more than political or legal corruption. It indicates a cultural sea change whereby the People have rejected the Declaration. To survive and one day thrive, it is critical that the Tea Party accept this reality.

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In the aftermath of the election, we wonder what we could have done better. However, seeking to improve upon failed means will only perpetuate defeat. The Tea Party needs to fundamentally reevaluate its cultural posture and its methods of activism. The popular comforting belief that there exists a silent, center-right majority eager to be led to political victory must be abandoned. We must somberly accept that a century of patient, persistent, planned cultural corruption by self-styled progressives has rotted out from within what no external enemy could breach.

That does not mean that we give up the fight. It does mean we must change our rules of engagement to fit the facts on the ground. In war, you would not enter battle assuming that conditions in the field were somehow better than your intelligence suggests. Yet that is what many of us did throughout the 2012 election season. Never mind the polls, we’re winning! Perhaps no group was more emblematic of this mindset than the diehard supporters of Ron Paul, who proceeded so convinced of their inevitable victory that successive defeats were regarded as sure evidence of fraud.

We have to get real, and the reality is bleak.
The article goes on to describe methods for rebuilding the culture which made a constitutional government possible by A) ignoring current social structures, and B) creating voluntary parallel structures to replace them. For instance, the article explains that the original motivations for creating a public education system was to create a virtuous society, because limited constitutional government requires a virtuous society to function as intended. Our public education system today has been so thoroughly coopted by the socialist left that it no longer serves the purpose of creating a virtuous people. As Bill Whittle says in the accompanying video, you don't need a big government to control a virtuous people. "Virtuous people" doesn't necessarily mean prudish or religious people, but it does mean "people who can be counted on to do the right thing, are self-policing, and don't require a big government to force them to do the right thing.........."right thing" being defined by that big government. What has been amply demonstrated by these election results is that 51% of the people in this country are no longer virtuous. The reason that is so is because virtue has to be taught. Human beings are NOT innately virtuous, and unless they are taught virtue in their homes and in their schools, they will not learn it on their own. And today's parents are old enough that they are themselves products of an educational system that not only does not teach virtue, but which in some cases actively and intentionally destroys virtue. How then can these parents be expected to teach virtue in their children in their own homes?

The article proposes an online private subscriber based educational system as an example of one of these "alternate" societal structures. Subscription rates could be set at $9.95/month/child, which is affordable to the VAAAAAST majority of people even of modest means. Classes would be online, and the subject matter taught would be what could be called a "classic education." A system like this could teach virtue along with the "three 'Rs'." The author points out that there are over 4,000,000 children currently enrolled in private schools in the U.S. If you could put that within the financial reach of most Americans, and multiply that by $9.95/month, that would be a potential operating budget in the billions of dollars. Mind you, I have nothing against home schooling at all, but the problem with it is that it is often not within the financial or practical grasp of people who depend on two incomes to make ends meet; or, it may not be possible for a parent to afford the cost of materials; or, they may not have access to an organized curriculum. Whatever. An online affordable subscriber based education is a viable alternative.

Anyway, I agree with Bill Whittle that the government is currently like the Titanic. The ship's captain and crew observed the iceberg for some period of time before hitting it. They reversed engines and threw the rudder hard over to port, but a ship that size has so much mass that it continues on its path for quite a distance before it imperceptibly at first begins to veer off that path. In the case of the Titanic, those inputs came too late, and it hit the iceberg anyway, and everyone knows what happened. This is an accurate illustration of what is currently happening with our government. Whittle maintains that EVEN IF every employee of the government, including all elected officials and unelected bureaucrats, was replaced by a conservative, the momentum of a government as large as ours is so huge that it would still take a very long time for the change in political philosophy to result in a measurable change in how government does business.

Therefore, "fighting city hall" is a losing game for the foreseeable future. Instead, you ignore city hall. You don't do anything illegal. You pay your taxes, etc., etc., but you ignore government for everything else, including education. You write off your tax money and assume that every penny of it is going to be lost to crap you don't approve it. Just write it off, and join the parallel economy.

It's an intriguing idea, particularly to me, because I believe that the federal government is irreversibly corrupted. It will NEVER change. It will only grow worse because its momentum is too large to redirect. It's a lost cause. It is time to ignore it.

Here is the video of Bill Whittle's proposed education system. It's about an hour and a half long, but it is well worth listening to. I for one am grateful because it has shown me a way out of our current mess that is viable.
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=s02SypCcYIc[/youtube]
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quite interesting. Worth exploring.
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I'll bookmark that video for when I have time... Thanks.!

I've been interested for some time in the use of the internet for higher education, but never considered it for primary education. Just never crossed my mind.... Quite the revelation... I'm familiar with online course offerings from a variety of sources, from universities to corporate (both internal education and customer education), but I've not seen any real grassroots movement to adopt this education delivery system to anything mainstream... Yet.

Conceptually.... thinking out loud here... "Would I pay for my school-age kids to attend online primary school?"... Heck YES.! Not only does it give me CHOICE of what they learn and how it's taught, but it gives me FLEXIBILITY. Not being married to a traditional school calendar would be awesome. Of course the devil is in the details.

A bit OT, but, for adult education, I'm especially interested in Coursera. I've signed up for 2 classes that begin in 2013. I'll have a better opinion on the use of the internet for "real education", beyond just a few hours of specialized subject learning.
https://www.coursera.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks again for the informative (and hopeful) post.
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My wife and I homeschooled our children for the majority of their K-12 education and internet based education will become a mainstream feature. Universities are all now offering degree plans via web-based education. I've seen advertisements similar to this for k-12 web based education. I do believe it is the future, provided the NEA doesn't completely block it like all other viable alternatives they see as a threat to their tenure.
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Fascinating (and long) video. It wasn't clear to me regarding his plans for education, if that too was a parallel path. Are the students doing their on-line courses in addition to regular schoolwork?

Interesting concepts.
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sjfcontrol wrote:Fascinating (and long) video. It wasn't clear to me regarding his plans for education, if that too was a parallel path. Are the students doing their on-line courses in addition to regular schoolwork?

Interesting concepts.
Yes, he was suggesting it as a parallel path, and I believe that at some point he mentioned home schooling's role as an alternate path. He also outlined an alternate path for a space program, for instance. His bottom line was, nearly anything government is doing, the private sector can do on its own—more efficiently and at lower cost. Since that is the case, he said we should simply write off whatever we've paid and continue to pay in taxes, and not expect anything in exchange for it. Instead, we should, wherever possible, see those services in the private sector, even for unconventional things like space travel.

Government is NOT going to change. It is NOT going to reform the tax system to something more equitable such as a flat tax, VAT tax, or any other kind of tax. They are NOT going to follow the Chinese government, which is lowering taxes for Chinese citizens. They ARE going to follow the example of the Cuban government which, for the first time since Castro's revolution, is going to raise taxes on income for its citizens. And even if by some incredible miracle every single person in government—whether elected, appointed, or hired—were to suddenly convert to a conservative/libertarian small government way of thinking, the size of government is so vast and its momentum so huge that it would take years, maybe decades for it to begin to shrink and change direction........just like the Titanic, which even though the captain had given steering corrections and reversed engines, still bore down on that iceberg inexorably and sank, killing most of the passengers on board.

Since 51% (that we know of) of the electorate are not virtuous people in the classic sense of virtue, amply demonstrated by their returning a canker sore like Obama to a second term in the White House, we know that this represents the "new virtue" of the culture, and these crapulent voters are going to KEEP sending people like Obama to elected office. The is NOT going to ever be some kind of miraculous renaissance of political thought for those voters, and government is NOT going to miraculously change direction and put on the brakes.

What IS going to happen is that government is going to eventually collapse under its own weight. Those of us who have been ignoring it and living virtuous lives without the government telling us how to do that are going to be in a much better position to do that than the 51% (or more...that appears to be a growing demographic) who don't know what to do or how to survive if government isn't telling them...........the same government which is telling them that they cannot survive without government.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/33 ... vid-french
Can Billions Solve Problems that Trillions Couldn’t?
By David French
November 26, 2012 1:14 P.M.
The Left misunderstands conservatives when it believes the argument over tax rates is an argument about greed — that wealthier Americans simply want to grab all the money we can. In fact, many of the top 5 percent are among the most generous people in the world; they just tend to give their money to charities that actually produce results.

Leaving aside — for the moment — the increasingly inverse correlation between taxation and individual liberty (a crucial consideration all its own), we conservatives look at the vast bureaucratic beast with a sense of utter futility. We opt out of government projects and seek personal independence in part because we see government fail time and again — and not for lack of resources. For millions, government is less “the thing we do together” than it is the “monster inflicted upon us,” and the taxes we pay are less a contribution to the well-being of the community than a ransom payment to keep the monster away from our door.
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If one opts to cyber school their offspring, do they get a commensurate reduction in that portion of their property taxes that goes to their respective ISD. Just askin'....?
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No. You write off ALL your taxes. It's just gone.
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Oldgringo wrote:If one opts to cyber school their offspring, do they get a commensurate reduction in that portion of their property taxes that goes to their respective ISD. Just askin'....?
That would be fair, but the government isn't interested in fairness. What Bill Whittle was saying was basically, "kiss the money goodbye. You're not going to get anything for it, but you have to pay it anyway to stay out of jail. So pay it, quit whining, and get about the business of ignoring the government and living as if it didn't exist."


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no kids, ive been paying for education to the local isd's for years, yup just casting money to the wind and righting it off as gone.
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Oldgringo wrote:If one opts to cyber school their offspring, do they get a commensurate reduction in that portion of their property taxes that goes to their respective ISD. Just askin'....?
They get the same tax break as everybody else (including the childless) who don't send kids to publick skool four edjukashun.
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I count that money as the "leave me alone and keep your mitts off my kids education". It also gives me the right to say the schools should be better because it is my $$ going to pay for it too.
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jayinsat wrote:My wife and I homeschooled our children for the majority of their K-12 education and internet based education will become a mainstream feature. Universities are all now offering degree plans via web-based education. I've seen advertisements similar to this for k-12 web based education. I do believe it is the future, provided the NEA doesn't completely block it like all other viable alternatives they see as a threat to their tenure.
The NEA can only block what they control. They can't control (yet) what you do with your own children, and enough people do it, the government wouldn't be able to stop it.
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mamabearCali wrote:I count that money as the "leave me alone and keep your mitts off my kids education". It also gives me the right to say the schools should be better because it is my $$ going to pay for it too.
I consider it paying for my (great) grand-kids indoctrination.
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