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MeMelYup wrote:I found this interesting http://news.msn.com/us/booze-smokes-on- ... ups-agenda.
Fixed the link for you...
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A clear example of governmental overreach.
The bureau, known as TTB, collects taxes on booze and smokes and tells the companies that produce them how to do business — from approving beer can labels to deciding how much air a gin bottle can contain between lid and liquor.

It decides which valleys in Oregon and California can slap their names on wine labels, what grapes can go into wine and which new alcoholic drinks are safe to import.
What possible justification could there be for doing this under the Constitution?
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baldeagle wrote:What possible justification could there be for doing this under the Constitution?
That ubiquitous catch-all, unlimited "Commerce Clause". :deadhorse:
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:I found this interesting http://news.msn.com/us/booze-smokes-on- ... ups-agenda.
Fixed the link for you...
Tks.
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And this is why I have said that the BATFE is no such thing...it should be disbanded as an agency, and the firearms and explosives enforcement turned over to a branch of the FBI. Then they could focus on real crimes like actual gun smuggling and other things such as licensing for bulk explosives handling...and leave the states to handle day to day regulation of gun sales, etc.
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Jumping Frog wrote:
baldeagle wrote:What possible justification could there be for doing this under the Constitution?
That ubiquitous catch-all, unlimited "Commerce Clause". :deadhorse:
IT'S A TAX!!!!

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Think about this for awhile. Three things the gov does not like but has to put up with
due to popular demand ALOCHOL...TOBACCO..FIREARMS.. This is the agency that
oversees what the gov does not like
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tommyg wrote:Think about this for awhile. Three things the gov does not like but has to put up with
due to popular demand ALOCHOL...TOBACCO..FIREARMS.. This is the agency that
oversees what the gov does not like
BUT BUT BUT... The government cannot discriminate!
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the Department of BBBB... Booze, Backey, Boolits and Bombs

who'd a thunk it

another useless government organization to enforce targeted taxation
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In a modern, free country, BATFE would be a chain of convenience stores.
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