Thoughts on which gun to get

[Wes]

I just wanted to get some opinions on my next purchase. I will be trying to find a new addition at the ft worth gun show this weekend but am torn on which to purchase. Right now I want a sig 226 (not sure on specific one), a beretta 92fs or m9, a sig556 pistol, and an ak (i like the saigas but unsure). I have a small collection of firearms but just want to add to it and while I would love to get them all at once i just cant. Which would you take now and why? I am leaning towards the ak if I can find it as it seems the most likely impacted (price or design) by current events but am unsure.

Also, I know i want both of the standard pistols and if any sort of ban comes in to play the biggest impact to these i could see would be the high cap mags. As for the sig556, I want one which uses pmags and I have 7 of them so not too concerned there (or should i be?!). I have tried to read about the old AWB and could not find anything about this, but could i just buy the mags for these now and the gun later? Even if something happens and they change to smaller mags couldnt i use ones bought now? (based on old ban). Finally, what does this mean "Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip" specifically? Thanks

[Thomas]

Good choices IMO. I ultimately decided between the P226 and 92FS for my first pistol because they both passed the XM9 Joint Service Pistol Trials. I ultimately decided on the P226 because it felt better in my hand. Also, it's what the SEALs use

I'm pretty sure SIG makes 10 round mags for the P226. Mine came with 15 round (standard) mags. Pro Mags also makes 32 round mags for it. Don't know too much about the 92FS in that regard though.

I would like to get a SIG556, but I'm going to have to wait on that

[Salty1]

I have sold (2) 556 pistols, both purchasers have sold them after the novelty wore off. Although they are cool and have a wow factor I would debate how practical they are. The Sig 226 is one of the best handguns on the market, so if your looking for a handgun you cannot go wrong with one of them.

[Thomas]

I have sold (2) 556 pistols, both purchasers have sold them after the novelty wore off. Although they are cool and have a wow factor I would debate how practical they are. The Sig 226 is one of the best handguns on the market, so if your looking for a handgun you cannot go wrong with one of them.

I wonder if you're right about the 556. I bought (and still have) a Sig 522. I think the novelty wore off that. I wonder if I would have been happier with an AR with a conversion kit between 5.56 and .22

[SigM4]

The 226 is a great gun, well balanced and a real pleasure to shoot, and judging by my username, that'd be my choice. I know they come with the 15 round mags, but Mec-Gar makes 18 round mags, and 18+2 mags that will get you up to 20 rounds in the gun. I've seen the 32 round Promags, but haven't tried them yet, although I am in need of a good paperweight . In any case I don't think you can go wrong with either the 226 or the 92fs.

[ryouiki]

In the 226 line, the MK25 (replaced the 226 Navy IIRC) would be my pick (assuming you want 9mm)... my choice after tons of research/feedback came down to that, and another quality pistol, which just barely won out over the 226 (I never found a single complaint against the MK25, it ended up coming down to the trigger mechanism). Sig for sure makes 10 round magazines for the 226... but lets hope it never comes down to having to worry about that

I've shot the 92fs, but for whatever reason the one I was shooting was unreliable, so that probably soured my experience, and I should refrain from commenting :

That said, with Biden running this thing, and Feinstein foaming at the mouth in the background... I wouldn't be focusing on handguns... assuming I had the cash on hand.

[Wes]

Thanks guys, but yea I want a 9 and the main reason I was looking at a pistol is I dont want to get it later and be limited to 10 rounds when I could have bought it now and had it be as it should.

Any thoughts on the idea of buying the high capacity mag now and the gun later? Just as a precaution? I cant find any info on if there were gun limitations or if just having the right mag will do. Assuming of course they do not outright ban them which I am skeptical of.

As for the sig556, The plan would be to make it in to an SBR as I can definitely see how the novelty could wear off. It just seemed like a good gun and something I could still enjoy while I wait for my stamp. Any idea if stamps will take longer to get or be restricted further too?

[Silent Professional]

Just to set the record straight, only one pistol passed all of the military trials, and that was the SIG P226. The Beretta 92 failed miserably. I know people who were involved in all stages of the testing. The real reason why we got saddled with the M9 is the long term leases on the NATO bases in Italy were coming up, and the Italian government threatened to not renew those leases unless we adopted the Beretta. Politics as usual.

The P226 was carried by the Navy SpecWar Teams until about 2005 - ish, when they began to have catastrophic failures of new recoil springs. (I got a call from a Master Chief that I had trained with.) Turns out they were breaking in half, and incapacitating the pistol. That resulted in 50+ DoD CID and Homeland Security Agents raiding SIG in Exeter, NH with a Federal bench warrant. They shut down the place, threw everybody out, and seized parts, computers, and records.

It seems as though SIG went to the lowest bidder on the recoil spring and stopped supplying DoD with MilSpec springs made my Sauer and Sohn in Germany. Shortly after that DoD suspended its contract with SIG. Homeland Security, however, stayed with SIG on its "approved for duty" list.

If you own a pre- 2002 SIG and can get parts from Sauer and Sohn in Germany, you should be good to go. If you have anything that passed through Exeter, NH you have a brand name with lowest bidder parts inside.

[Thomas]

Just to set the record straight, only one pistol passed all of the military trials, and that was the SIG P226. The Beretta 92 failed miserably. I know people who were involved in all stages of the testing. The real reason why we got saddled with the M9 is the long term leases on the NATO bases in Italy were coming up, and the Italian government threatened to not renew those leases unless we adopted the Beretta. Politics as usual.

The P226 was carried by the Navy SpecWar Teams until about 2005 - ish, when they began to have catastrophic failures of new recoil springs. (I got a call from a Master Chief that I had trained with.) Turns out they were breaking in half, and incapacitating the pistol. That resulted in 50+ DoD CID and Homeland Security Agents raiding SIG in Exeter, NH with a Federal bench warrant. They shut down the place, threw everybody out, and seized parts, computers, and records.

It seems as though SIG went to the lowest bidder on the recoil spring and stopped supplying DoD with MilSpec springs made my Sauer and Sohn in Germany. Shortly after that DoD suspended its contract with SIG. Homeland Security, however, stayed with SIG on its "approved for duty" list.

If you own a pre- 2002 SIG and can get parts from Sauer and Sohn in Germany, you should be good to go. If you have anything that passed through Exeter, NH you have a brand name with lowest bidder parts inside.

Do you have any sources you can link to so I can do some more reading on this.

[JALLEN]

I'd like to see a link to references on that story about Sig. The team guys here seem to be quite happy with their 226s, although some use other pistols as is their choice, depending on the mission, etc. Whatever the trouble was seems to have been quickly remedied.

Sig is now offering a special MK25 Limited Edition 50th Anniversary to verified SEAL operators, with Trident, Motto, Class number, etc.

I have a 226 Navy that has worked just fine for years, although probably not under as rigorous conditions as a team gun has to withstand.

I'd see which gun fits your hand the best, which one you shoot the best, and go with that.

[Wes]

Thats the problem, I like the grip slightly better on the 92fs and the shot a little better on the sig. Its a toss up as far as my usability goes really. I wanted a full size XDm but they dont have the same feel of the compact I currently have so looked elsewhere. If I went sig id really like to get it with the threaded barrel but i havnt seen those in a while.

[drjoker]

Only way to tell which gun is best for YOU is for you to go to the range, rent them, and shoot them.

As for buying an AK to stock up before a ban, that's just naive (no offense, jes sayin). Clinton was a happy liberal. Obama is a foaming at the mouth socialist. He is NOT going to pass a ban with a sunset that allows pre-ban guns like Clinton. Obama will try his best to pass a ban that has a Government buy back just like Australia. Buy you AK now for $600 and you can expect to sell it back to the governemt for $300. That's what they did in Australia, which has a gun culture similar to the USA.

I just wanted to get some opinions on my next purchase. I will be trying to find a new addition at the ft worth gun show this weekend but am torn on which to purchase. Right now I want a sig 226 (not sure on specific one), a beretta 92fs or m9, a sig556 pistol, and an ak (i like the saigas but unsure). I have a small collection of firearms but just want to add to it and while I would love to get them all at once i just cant. Which would you take now and why? I am leaning towards the ak if I can find it as it seems the most likely impacted (price or design) by current events but am unsure.

Also, I know i want both of the standard pistols and if any sort of ban comes in to play the biggest impact to these i could see would be the high cap mags. As for the sig556, I want one which uses pmags and I have 7 of them so not too concerned there (or should i be?!). I have tried to read about the old AWB and could not find anything about this, but could i just buy the mags for these now and the gun later? Even if something happens and they change to smaller mags couldnt i use ones bought now? (based on old ban). Finally, what does this mean "Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip" specifically? Thanks

[The Annoyed Man]

Only way to tell which gun is best for YOU is for you to go to the range, rent them, and shoot them.

As for buying an AK to stock up before a ban, that's just naive (no offense, jes sayin). Clinton was a happy liberal. Obama is a foaming at the mouth socialist. He is NOT going to pass a ban with a sunset that allows pre-ban guns like Clinton. Obama will try his best to pass a ban that has a Government buy back just like Australia. Buy you AK now for $600 and you can expect to sell it back to the governemt for $300. That's what they did in Australia, which has a gun culture similar to the USA.

I just wanted to get some opinions on my next purchase. I will be trying to find a new addition at the ft worth gun show this weekend but am torn on which to purchase. Right now I want a sig 226 (not sure on specific one), a beretta 92fs or m9, a sig556 pistol, and an ak (i like the saigas but unsure). I have a small collection of firearms but just want to add to it and while I would love to get them all at once i just cant. Which would you take now and why? I am leaning towards the ak if I can find it as it seems the most likely impacted (price or design) by current events but am unsure.

Also, I know i want both of the standard pistols and if any sort of ban comes in to play the biggest impact to these i could see would be the high cap mags. As for the sig556, I want one which uses pmags and I have 7 of them so not too concerned there (or should i be?!). I have tried to read about the old AWB and could not find anything about this, but could i just buy the mags for these now and the gun later? Even if something happens and they change to smaller mags couldnt i use ones bought now? (based on old ban). Finally, what does this mean "Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip" specifically? Thanks

I think that if Democrats actually pass such a ban, they would have a civil war on their hands, and they know it. Besides, a draconian ban like that won't pass the House with a Republican majority. But some kind of ban similar to the last one could pass if enough Republicans go squishy.

[TexasGal]

Yeah, I saw a story on a liberal site where Feinstein was quoted as describing what they will push for. It is a forced buy back of AW and other semi-automatics for $500 with any remaining guns (whatever is not covered in the forced buyback) being registered if you wanted to keep them. She wants to include pushing for limits on caliber, making all firearms transfers go through FFL, and more. Wow, the comments section below that story had guys--a couple id'd them selves as veterans--that were talking civil war with military support. They were arguing with a particularly snotty liberal and it had gone all the way down hill from there. I would not have put in print the things they were saying. Sorry, back to the subject of the thread now.

[drjoker]

2nd amendment won't protect you either. mexico has a right to bear arms in the constitution, but ask around, how many law abiding mexicans LEGALLY have guns? zip. Only drug lords have guns. Why? Because there is no outright ban on guns in mexico per their version of our 2nd amendment, but they do REGULATE it (not ban). You can have guns as long as it is not a military caliber and the bullets are super expensive, and you have to jump through lots of red tape to be legal. That's what the libtards want to do here.

Why do stupid Americans want to vote to turn America into China?! Why won't the stupid people who love socialism, cough (change), and detest their human rights so much just move to China? Instead, they ruin my beloved America....