SIG 229 CONCERN ?? 9 mm

TIN BENDER · Post by **TIN BENDER** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:43 pm

First 13 rounds seemed to sail the spent brass right to the top of my bald head ! Did ya know they're HOT ?
I shoot an up close & friendly position with my elbows touching my sides
and the rear sight about 12 inches from my eyes. This is a comfortable position for me and works well with my other toys.
Can this trajectory be changed? Or just deal with it.

ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ?

Yes, I will wear a fireproof skull bonnet next time.

txinvestigator · Post by **txinvestigator** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:49 pm

TIN BENDER wrote:First 13 rounds seemed to sail the spent brass right to the top of my bald head ! Did ya know they're HOT ?
I shoot an up close & friendly position with my elbows touching my sides
and the rear sight about 12 inches from my eyes. This is a comfortable position for me and works well with my other toys.
Can this trajectory be changed? Or just deal with it.

ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ?

Yes, I will wear a fireproof skull bonnet next time.

Unless you have a physical condition requiring it, I would have you change your hold to arms farther out. However, I have never seen you shoot. If you can hit, move and hit and engage multiple targets effectively, my "online diagnosis" might just be worth what it cost you.

I always wear some type of hat when I shoot.

Cosmo 9 · Post by **Cosmo 9** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:05 pm

I had an old Llama .45 that did the same thing. The brass went right over my head.

I fixed it by selling it.

razoraggie · Post by **razoraggie** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:26 pm

@ Cosmo

TIN BENDER · Post by **TIN BENDER** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:26 pm

TXINV; I hear ya Bro. This technique came from a Vietman Vet. Master SGT. who witnessed my first stance and inquired if I was going to the Olympic Games or WHAT? This was just a stance I saw everyone else using and I did the same. But what he showed me was so much more comfortable. The elbows on the side serve as a steady rest and much to my surprise was comfortable and improved my aim. His best advice was to relax and try it. I did and I like it. Give it a try.
But a burnt bald head is no fun.
Maybe I should contact SIG about the path of the spent shell.
Thank you Sir.

Mike1951 · Post by **Mike1951** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:04 pm

Distance can be regulated by different power recoil springs.

In my limited knowledge, I believe the path of the casing is determined by the extractor.

Find a SIG forum and search for other occurrences and fixes, if any.

TIN BENDER · Post by **TIN BENDER** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:22 pm

Thanks Mike, Will do tomorrow.

G.C.Montgomery · Post by **G.C.Montgomery** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:21 pm

YMMV, but every Sig pistol I've ever owned or shot would solidly eject to the right on a trajectory that would never approach my skull no matter how close I held the pistol to my face. I've seen similar complaints with Glocks but that is almost always an operator headspace malfunction. Usually, limp wrists let the gun rare back, robbing the slide of velocity relative to the frame and causing ejected cases to sail over the shooters head or even get deposited onto the scalp. But, I haven't seen you shoot and I might be off base. Either way, change what you are doing to see if that improves things.

TIN BENDER · Post by **TIN BENDER** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:31 am

Yes Sir! The wrist may be my problem. I will address these issues today.
Thank you.

TIN BENDER · Post by **TIN BENDER** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:24 pm

OK ! Thanks to all who responded I 've got this SIG JELLIN'. Of course, it was an operator error. I modified my NEW TECHNIQUE and the bald one remained slick with no brass burns. The spent brass fell 3 feet @ the 4 oclock position each and every time.
Thanks to all who helped.

NcongruNt · Post by **NcongruNt** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:25 pm

I had the same problem during my CHL class... but it was someone else's bald head that was taking the beating.

The PA63 ejects shells at a pretty good velocity at about 4:00. Generally they land somewhere between 10 and 15 feet away. Well, during the shooting test, we were positioned shoulder to shoulder almost, and my spent casings were going straight into the head of the guy to my right. A few of them hit square on with the lip side and drew a little blood in a .363" crescent shape. I felt pretty bad about it, though he did disregard the instructions about bringing a baseball cap to deflect spent brass. I've since installed a heavier recoil spring, which I think has cut the distance to more like 6 feet, but still probably enough to smack someone in the head again. I think next time around I'll request the far right position if I'm qualifying with my PA63.

cyphur · Post by **cyphur** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:39 pm

This post definitely piqued my interest since I just purchased a P229R 9mm!

I have had no problems with the trajectory of ejected shells! I am glad you found the issue and were able to remedy it.

Diode · Post by **Diode** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:25 am

cyphur wrote:This post definitely piqued my interest since I just purchased a P229R 9mm!

I have had no problems with the trajectory of ejected shells! I am glad you found the issue and were able to remedy it.

I have noticed on new handguns casings seem to fly everywhere for a few hundred rounds.

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