I asked this to some of you a while back but am now in a predicament:
Even though I have heard from many of you (many who's opinion I greatly respect) that as long as a hospital is NOT posted 30.06 and it is not a college hospital of a federal hospital (ie: VA), it is legal to carry. Upon reviewing the stautes under chapter 46 of the penal code from the DPS website, I still see it mentioning that ANY hospital if off limits to CHLers unless you have written permission. What am I missing and where is it? The last thing I want to do is give my wife faulty info relating to her carrying to visit a family member or give myself a false sense of security if I am carrying there as well. I hope some one can actually point me to the amended part of the penal code that I can print out and keep with me. I'm trying to make a revised "Pocket Penal Code" book that relates to CHL that I can possibly keep in my checkbook or something. Any input (especially from TXi) wil be greatly appreicated here. Thanks again in advance.
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http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/ls-16.pdf
This the the link to the PDF of the law directly form DPS website. See pages 36 and 37, specifically on page 37 (i).
In summary, it says on page 36 (4)you can not carry in a hospital.
On page 37 it says that page 36 (4) is not valid if you were not given notice under 30.06.
This the the link to the PDF of the law directly form DPS website. See pages 36 and 37, specifically on page 37 (i).
In summary, it says on page 36 (4)you can not carry in a hospital.
On page 37 it says that page 36 (4) is not valid if you were not given notice under 30.06.
txi will give the law in print I am sure.
After that you need to remember if you are in Harris county hospital with or w/o a proper posted 30-06 sign you are still at risk to be the "test case". Dont know about League Sity but around here there are no signs those of us who carry do so.
When I go to Houston:
I consider every hospital sign I HAVE seen to be non-compliant.
They have the proper wording but are not easily seen & are white letters on glass. Not much contrast. Usually at the bottom of the glass front in a place that when doors open the sign is covered.
Considering the Harris County DA & my finances I dont want to be the test case.
I leave my fire arm in the truck. Carry my knife & walk w/ my cane.
My .02cents & some think it worth about half that.
LT
After that you need to remember if you are in Harris county hospital with or w/o a proper posted 30-06 sign you are still at risk to be the "test case". Dont know about League Sity but around here there are no signs those of us who carry do so.
When I go to Houston:
I consider every hospital sign I HAVE seen to be non-compliant.
They have the proper wording but are not easily seen & are white letters on glass. Not much contrast. Usually at the bottom of the glass front in a place that when doors open the sign is covered.
Considering the Harris County DA & my finances I dont want to be the test case.
I leave my fire arm in the truck. Carry my knife & walk w/ my cane.

My .02cents & some think it worth about half that.
LT

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Here is the section that would concern you, having a CHL:
§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the
license holder's person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or
license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic
Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its
income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for
on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic
Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate,
or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking
place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a
handgun is used in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under
Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing
home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the
license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing
home administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other
established place of religious worship.
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a
governmental entity.
(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while
intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun under the
authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless
of whether the handgun is concealed.
(e) A license holder who is licensed as a security officer
under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and employed as a security
officer commits an offense if, while in the course and scope of the
security officer's employment, the security officer violates a
provision of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(f) In this section:
(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or
outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for
use by the public that is located in a county with a population of
more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface
area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is
open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has
security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not
include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or
walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
(2) "License holder" means a person licensed to carry
a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a
building. The term does not include any public or private driveway,
street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other
parking area.
(g) An offense under Subsection (a), (b), (c), (d), or (e)
is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the offense is committed under
Subsection (b)(1) or (b)(3), in which event the offense is a felony
of the third degree.
(h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that
the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed
the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been
justified in the use of deadly force under Chapter 9.
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply
if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
(j) Subsections (a) and (b)(1) do not apply to a historical
reenactment performed in compliance with the rules of the Texas
Alcoholic Beverage Commission.
Lots of people miss section "i". My CHL instructor did, and I politely pointed it out after class.
I sure hope the visit isn't for something serious.
Good luck, stay safe, and carry often.
§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the
license holder's person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or
license issued under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic
Beverage Code, if the business derives 51 percent or more of its
income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for
on-premises consumption, as determined by the Texas Alcoholic
Beverage Commission under Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate,
or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking
place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a
handgun is used in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under
Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing
home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the
license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing
home administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other
established place of religious worship.
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a
governmental entity.
(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while
intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun under the
authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless
of whether the handgun is concealed.
(e) A license holder who is licensed as a security officer
under Chapter 1702, Occupations Code, and employed as a security
officer commits an offense if, while in the course and scope of the
security officer's employment, the security officer violates a
provision of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(f) In this section:
(1) "Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or
outdoor facility or park where amusement rides are available for
use by the public that is located in a county with a population of
more than one million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface
area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries, is
open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has
security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not
include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or
walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.
(2) "License holder" means a person licensed to carry
a handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code.
(3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a
building. The term does not include any public or private driveway,
street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other
parking area.
(g) An offense under Subsection (a), (b), (c), (d), or (e)
is a Class A misdemeanor, unless the offense is committed under
Subsection (b)(1) or (b)(3), in which event the offense is a felony
of the third degree.
(h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that
the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed
the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been
justified in the use of deadly force under Chapter 9.
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply
if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
(j) Subsections (a) and (b)(1) do not apply to a historical
reenactment performed in compliance with the rules of the Texas
Alcoholic Beverage Commission.
Lots of people miss section "i". My CHL instructor did, and I politely pointed it out after class.
I sure hope the visit isn't for something serious.
Good luck, stay safe, and carry often.
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Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
Governments should be afraid of their people." - V
Yep. He has ignored the traveling definition. Said if you have a gun in the vehicle w/o a CHL you will be arrested. I figure the hospital would be the same way.

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