Keeping TX CHL when moving out of state ?

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j1132s
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Keeping TX CHL when moving out of state ?

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If someone moves out of TX and into CA (which is a may-issue state), is it possible to keep his/her TX CHL (perhaps converting it into a non-resident license)? how?
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What specific county are you moving to?

Texas/Cali reciprocity is unilateral. Cali does not allow you to carry under your Texas License. :-( So even if you could keep your Texas CHL, you could not use it.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm

No
w to answer your specific question, I found this:

It is my understanding that Texas will only issue a non resident license if the home state is a NONISSUING state. Since California is a MAY issue state, I don't see how keeping Texas as a non resident issuee would apply.

I wonder if you could pay a family member like 10 dollars a month or something here in Texas to rent a room? NALB I don't see how that would not be legal. Maybe a little sneaky, but it would meet residency requirements as far as I can find them.


Bill Number: HB 3477

AN ACT relating to the issuance of concealed handgun licenses to residents of certain other states and to reciprocity agreements with other states concerning concealed handgun licenses.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:

SECTION 1. Section 411.173, Government Code, is amended to read as follows:

Sec. 411.173. NONRESIDENT LICENSE. (a) The department by rule shall establish a procedure for a person who is a legal resident of a state that does not provide for the issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun and who meets the eligibility requirements of this subchapter other than the residency requirement established by Section 411.172(a)(1) to obtain a license under this subchapter. The procedure must include payment of a fee in an amount sufficient to recover the average cost to the department of obtaining a criminal history record check and investigation on a nonresident applicant. <If a state whose residents may obtain a license under this subsection enacts a law providing for the issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun, a license issued to a resident of that state:>

<(1) remains in effect until the license expires under Section 411.183; and>

<(2) may be renewed under Section 411.185 until the time a license issued by the other state is recognized by this state under Subsection (b).>

(b) The <governor> [department] shall negotiate an agreement with any other state that provides for the issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun under which a license issued by the other state is recognized in this state <or shall issue a proclamation that a license issued by the other state is recognized in this state> if the <attorney general of the State of Texas> [department] determines that [:]

[(1)] <a> [the eligibility requirements imposed by the other state include] background check <of each applicant for a license issued by that state is conducted by state or local authorities or an agent of the state or local authorities before the license is issued to determine the applicants' eligibility to possess a firearm under federal law> [requirements that meet or exceed background check requirements imposed by federal law as a condition of receiving a handgun; and]

[(2) the other state recognizes a license issued in] [this state].

<(c) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall annually:>

<(1) submit a report to the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker of the house of representatives listing the states the attorney general has determined qualify for recognition under Subsection (b); and>

<(2) review the statutes of states that the attorney general has determined do not qualify for recognition under Subsection (b) to determine the changes to their statutes that are necessary to qualify for recognition under that subsection.>

<(d) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall submit the report required by Subsection (c)(1) not later than January 1 of each calendar year.>
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BrassMonkey wrote:What specific county are you moving to?

Texas/Cali reciprocity is unilateral. Cali does not allow you to carry under your Texas License. :-( So even if you could keep your Texas CHL, you could not use it.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rocity.htm

No
w to answer your specific question, I found this:

It is my understanding that Texas will only issue a non resident license if the home state is a NONISSUING state. Since California is a MAY issue state, I don't see how keeping Texas as a non resident issuee would apply.

I wonder if you could pay a family member like 10 dollars a month or something here in Texas to rent a room? NALB I don't see how that would not be legal. Maybe a little sneaky, but it would meet residency requirements as far as I can find them.


Bill Number: HB 3477

AN ACT relating to the issuance of concealed handgun licenses to residents of certain other states and to reciprocity agreements with other states concerning concealed handgun licenses.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:

SECTION 1. Section 411.173, Government Code, is amended to read as follows:

Sec. 411.173. NONRESIDENT LICENSE. (a) The department by rule shall establish a procedure for a person who is a legal resident of a state that does not provide for the issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun and who meets the eligibility requirements of this subchapter other.............
That is outdated information. Currently, a resident of any state can have a TEXAS CHL.

Texas Government Code
§ 411.173. NONRESIDENT LICENSE. (a) The department by
rule shall establish a procedure for a person who meets the
eligibility requirements of this subchapter other than the
residency requirement established by Section 411.172(a)(1) to
obtain a license under this subchapter if the person is a legal
resident of another state
or if the person relocates to this state
with the intent to establish residency in this state. The procedure
must include payment of a fee in an amount sufficient to recover the
average cost to the department of obtaining a criminal history
record check and investigation on a nonresident applicant. A
license issued in accordance with the procedure established under
this subsection:


http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/do ... 411.172.00


Texas Administrative Code;
TITLE 37 PUBLIC SAFETY AND CORRECTIONS
PART 1 TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
CHAPTER 6 LICENSE TO CARRY HANDGUNS
SUBCHAPTER B ELIGIBILITY AND APPLICATION PROCEDURES
RULE §6.11 Eligibility for License To Carry a Concealed Handgun

To be eligible for a license to carry a concealed handgun, a person must meet the following requirements:

(1) an applicant must have been a resident of this state for the six-month period preceding the date of application, relocate to this state with the intent to establish residency in this state, or must be eligible for a non-resident license as provided by the Act;


http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/rea ... ch=6&rl=11



All the person moving from Texas would need to do is submit an address change.

As already noted, your Texas CHL has no validity in CA.
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Post by Doug.38PR »

wait a minute. I thought you could keep your CHL when moving to another state even if you could be issued a license in that state?

(searching for the thread where I asked this specific question)

I am moving to Louisiana before the year is out and understood I could change my address and keep my Texas CHL along with my Florida CHL
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Post by Doug.38PR »

wait a minute. I thought you could keep your CHL when moving to another state even if you could be issued a license in that state?

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... ght=#58901

I ask this question in the above thread and got the answer you see

I am moving to Louisiana before the year is out and understood I could change my address and keep my Texas CHL along with my Florida CHL
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Doug.38PR wrote:wait a minute. I thought you could keep your CHL when moving to another state even if you could be issued a license in that state?

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... ght=#58901

I ask this question in the above thread and got the answer you see

I am moving to Louisiana before the year is out and understood I could change my address and keep my Texas CHL along with my Florida CHL
Read my post Doug. You can.
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Post by Doug.38PR »

Ahh, got it. I just read the first response and sounded to me like you could only have a license until such time as the state you were in issued you one.
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