This guy I know........

[The Annoyed Man]

So, "this guy I know" did one of the most bone-headed things I've ever........ I mean.... HE ever saw today. He had two bolt rifles, two AR15s, and 5 pistols to clean. He had been to the range yesterday morning with The Annoyed Wo....... I mean his wife..... and realized that it was high time to actually clean his guns, since I........

......OK, it was me.....

......since I had let it slide the last two times I had been to the rifle range. So basically, I cleaned 9 guns today, and by the time I got to the last one, I was TIRED. The last gun was my wife's Glock 19. I got it apart and cleaned just fine, but when I reassembled it, I accidentally installed the guide rod/recoil spring assembly backwards. So of course, when I mounted the slide assembly back onto the frame and pulled the slide back to lock it, I so thoroughly jammed up the works that I can neither move the slide forward to remove it, or pull it back to lock it back.

I tried to find out if anyone else on the Interwebs has been as dumb as "my friend", and what they did to fix it. The only recommendation I found, besides taking it to a Glock armorer, is to cut the protruding plastic guide rod off, get the gun apart, and install a replacement guide rod/recoil spring assembly. I gave Marty, Crossfire's husband, a call this afternoon. He's a Glock armorer, and I thought he might be able to help. He told me to bring it by his office tomorrow and he'd check it out.

In the meantime, have any of you ever heard of this kind of problem, and do you have a solution?

[Maxwell]

Tam,

Take faith in yourself that there wasn't a live round involved... Anything else is livable.

[jmra]

To be honest, I didn't know you could put them in backwards. Every time I've tried it I couldn't get it to seat properly which was my first hint it was backwards. I will be double checking from now on though.

[cheezit]

Try doing a search on glock talk. I rember reading something about it before

[The Annoyed Man]

Tam,

Take faith in yourself that there wasn't a live round involved... Anything else is livable.

I always leave the magazines and live rounds in another part of the house. We had real nice weather today, and I did all the cleaning out on my back patio.

[The Annoyed Man]

Try doing a search on glock talk. I rember reading something about it before

FIXED IT!!

Thanks cheezit. I found a thread about it on glocktalk. It wasn't installed backward after all. It was a matter of the front rails not lining up with the corresponding grooves in the slide. So the dust cover got cattywaumpus, making it look like the guide rod wasn't installed correctly.

That was a first for me. Live and learn.

[McKnife]

I have an entertaining story that's related...

The exact same thing happened to a hottie I recognized at the pistol range back in 2007, except hers was a nickle Taurus 9mm version of a Beretta 92.

I recognized her because she worked the gun counter at the local cabelas... which made me spend even more time at the counter than i should.

Poor thing had just bought it with her employee discount and was there to shoot for the first time. She field stripped the gun, but when she put it back together, somehow the slide rails got misaligned, crossed, and absolutely frozen with the slide all the way back.

She brought it to me to see if I could be her hero, so I gave it my all... but it wouldn't budge. It ended up being hilarious to watch because every guy there was lining up at the chance to be the one that saves the day for the pretty girl... there must have been 15 or 20... even the range gunsmith hermit came outside of his shell behind the counter and couldn't free it. I never did find out what happened in the end... but the moral of the story is... be careful when reassembling.

[jmra]

Try doing a search on glock talk. I rember reading something about it before

FIXED IT!!

Thanks cheezit. I found a thread about it on glocktalk. It wasn't installed backward after all. It was a matter of the front rails not lining up with the corresponding grooves in the slide. So the dust cover got cattywaumpus, making it look like the guide rod wasn't installed correctly.

That was a first for me. Live and learn.

So, what did you have to do to get it back apart?

[The Annoyed Man]

Try doing a search on glock talk. I rember reading something about it before

FIXED IT!!

Thanks cheezit. I found a thread about it on glocktalk. It wasn't installed backward after all. It was a matter of the front rails not lining up with the corresponding grooves in the slide. So the dust cover got cattywaumpus, making it look like the guide rod wasn't installed correctly.

That was a first for me. Live and learn.

So, what did you have to do to get it back apart?

I took a closer look at the muzzle end of the gun (unloaded, ammo in another room), and noticed that the dustcover didn't seem properly aligned. I found a thread at GlockTalk.com, and this post in particular: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpos ... ostcount=5.

I did like he said....

Help, My Glock Won't Go Together, What Do I Do? You've field stripped it many times and reassembly was always easy. But this time, it's back together yet the barrel and recoil spring assembly are sticking out of the front of the slide (1), the slide is not flush with the rear of the frame (2), and the barrel is not in battery with the slide (3). See pic. What happened? What do I do?.

What Happened? You pressed down slightly on the hood of the barrel while reassembling, and the mouth of the chamber caught on the locking block, preventing the barrel from returning to it's normal assembled position.

What do I do? Verify that there is no magazine in the pistol. Verify that the chamber is empty. Point the pistol in a safe direction. Pull back on the slide slightly, pull the trigger and hold it back. Let the slide go forward a little until the barrel hood pops up, then release the trigger and pull the slide back to the normal position.

Mine looked worse than this picture. The guide rod was off center to one side a bit, and it stuck out much further than in this picture. I could only get the slide about halfway or less to the rear, and not all the way forward either. But I pulled the slide back a little, pulled the trigger, and was able to slide the whole assembly off the frame. Upon inspection, the rear end of the guide rod was seated to the right depth, but very slightly off center. I think it was displaced after I botched remounting the slide assembly to the frame. I think the front rails might also have not properly engaged into the corresponding grooves in the slide. Anyway, after I got the slide assembly off, I corrected the guide rod's position, and everything went right back together as it should.

I was much relieved.

[TexasCajun]

To be honest, I didn't know you could put them in backwards. Every time I've tried it I couldn't get it to seat properly which was my first hint it was backwards. I will be double checking from now on though.

Same here. When I get things turned around, nothing sits right so I pull everything apart & start over.

[TexasCajun]

Try doing a search on glock talk. I rember reading something about it before

FIXED IT!!

Thanks cheezit. I found a thread about it on glocktalk. It wasn't installed backward after all. It was a matter of the front rails not lining up with the corresponding grooves in the slide. So the dust cover got cattywaumpus, making it look like the guide rod wasn't installed correctly.

That was a first for me. Live and learn.

So, what did you have to do to get it back apart?

I took a closer look at the muzzle end of the gun (unloaded, ammo in another room), and noticed that the dustcover didn't seem properly aligned. I found a thread at GlockTalk.com, and this post in particular: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpos ... ostcount=5.

I did like he said....

Help, My Glock Won't Go Together, What Do I Do? You've field stripped it many times and reassembly was always easy. But this time, it's back together yet the barrel and recoil spring assembly are sticking out of the front of the slide (1), the slide is not flush with the rear of the frame (2), and the barrel is not in battery with the slide (3). See pic. What happened? What do I do?.

What Happened? You pressed down slightly on the hood of the barrel while reassembling, and the mouth of the chamber caught on the locking block, preventing the barrel from returning to it's normal assembled position.

What do I do? Verify that there is no magazine in the pistol. Verify that the chamber is empty. Point the pistol in a safe direction. Pull back on the slide slightly, pull the trigger and hold it back. Let the slide go forward a little until the barrel hood pops up, then release the trigger and pull the slide back to the normal position.

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Mine looked worse than this picture. The guide rod was off center to one side a bit, and it stuck out much further than in this picture. I could only get the slide about halfway or less to the rear, and not all the way forward either. But I pulled the slide back a little, pulled the trigger, and was able to slide the whole assembly off the frame. Upon inspection, the rear end of the guide rod was seated to the right depth, but very slightly off center. I think it was displaced after I botched remounting the slide assembly to the frame. I think the front rails might also have not properly engaged into the corresponding grooves in the slide. Anyway, after I got the slide assembly off, I corrected the guide rod's position, and everything went right back together as it should.

I was much relieved.

My Uncle Stanley used to tell me all the time that a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Thanks for making me just a bit wiser.

[The Annoyed Man]

To be honest, I didn't know you could put them in backwards. Every time I've tried it I couldn't get it to seat properly which was my first hint it was backwards. I will be double checking from now on though.

Same here. When I get things turned around, nothing sits right so I pull everything apart & start over.

As it turns out, it wasn't in backwards, it just wasn't properly seated to the barrel, and the front part of the slide wasn't properly seated on the rails.

[TexasCajun]

To be honest, I didn't know you could put them in backwards. Every time I've tried it I couldn't get it to seat properly which was my first hint it was backwards. I will be double checking from now on though.

Same here. When I get things turned around, nothing sits right so I pull everything apart & start over.

As it turns out, it wasn't in backwards, it just wasn't properly seated to the barrel, and the front part of the slide wasn't properly seated on the rails.

I should have finished reading the thread before responding. Wisdom cometh, and just as quickly wisdom goeth!

[The Annoyed Man]

In the meantime, have any of you ever heard of this kind of problem, and do you have a solution?

Yes, and yes - but I don't think your friend would want to hear it as it contains the numbers 1 and 9