Drone Controvery Thread --new angle, thanks to FAA

[VMI77]

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-fa ... on-youtube

Some may remember the thread on drones flying over your property. Now the FAA has weighed in --absurdly-- and what is "commercial" use.

The FAA Says You Can't Post Drone Videos on YouTube

Earlier this week, the agency sent a legal notice to Jayson Hanes, a Tampa-based drone hobbyist who has been posting drone-shot videos online for roughly the last year.

The FAA said that, because there are ads on YouTube, Hanes's flights constituted a commercial use of the technology subject to stricter regulations and enforcement action from the agency. It said that if he did not stop flying “commercially,” he could be subject to fines or sanctions.

And there are people who think the FCC takeover of the internet is a good idea.

[mr1337]

So without ads on your video, you should be good, right?

[VMI77]

So without ads on your video, you should be good, right?

Don't see how you're going to make that happen on youtube. Lately just about every video there is proceeded with an ad.

[mr1337]

I'm no Youtube expert but I thought you could choose whether or not you can choose to monetize your video with ads.

[VMI77]

I'm no Youtube expert but I thought you could choose whether or not you can choose to monetize your video with ads.

I guess it's my ignorance. I have never posted a video on youtube....I use Vimeo...so I don't really know. I just assumed the ads were the price for using youtube, but you may be correct.

[MadMonkey]

Thankfully the FAA already backtracked on this one. Annoyingly enough, he was reported by another UAS operator who flies commercially and was trying to get others shut down.

The main reason the FAA was pushing on him is because he was monetizing the videos, not because of Youtube's own ads. But as I said, they backtracked on it when they realized they don't have the authority to enforce that.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Thankfully the FAA already backtracked on this one. Annoyingly enough, he was reported by another UAS operator who flies commercially and was trying to get others shut down.

The main reason the FAA was pushing on him is because he was monetizing the videos, not because of Youtube's own ads. But as I said, they backtracked on it when they realized they don't have the authority to enforce that.

I was wondering how FAA thought they had that authority.

Chas.

[VMI77]

Thankfully the FAA already backtracked on this one. Annoyingly enough, he was reported by another UAS operator who flies commercially and was trying to get others shut down.

The main reason the FAA was pushing on him is because he was monetizing the videos, not because of Youtube's own ads. But as I said, they backtracked on it when they realized they don't have the authority to enforce that.

What, an agency headed by an Obama appointee that accepts its statutory limits? Is that even possible?

[Abraham]

If I'm weeding my flower/truck garden you shouldn't have the right to video it.

Isn't my back yard - my back yard?

Leave me out of your drone activities. I'm doing no harm.

Keep messing with us, the law abiding, decent folk, and eventually even we will rebel...

[Charles L. Cotton]

If I'm weeding my flower/truck garden you shouldn't have the right to video it.

Isn't my back yard - my back yard?

Leave me out of your drone activities. I'm doing no harm.

I agree in concept, but the SCOTUS has opined that we have no expectation of privacy outside our home, or even inside if we leave our blinds open. I'm concerned with how the FAA even considered that it has the authority to regulate posting of videos, regardless how they were obtained.

Chas.

[CoffeeNut]

I've never posted my drone videos to YouTube nor do I intend to but this seems a bit of an overreach. I assume I can rent a helicopter and video my flight and post that on YouTube?

[cb1000rider]

I was wondering how FAA thought they had that authority.
Chas.

NTSB.
Apparently that's getting sorted out. It's kinda make-up the rules then find the authority:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... ges-ruling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've never posted my drone videos to YouTube nor do I intend to but this seems a bit of an overreach. I assume I can rent a helicopter and video my flight and post that on YouTube?

As long as you're not flying the helicopter, sure. The pilot, however:
1) Needs to be doing the flight for free. There are a very few number of circumstances where expenses could be split.
or
2) Needs to have a commercial rating or better and the helicopter is subject to "commercial" inspection standards.



The implication here is that if I post a video of a flight in which I'm a pilot and that video is connected to my adwords account, I better have a commercial rating...

[Abraham]

And further, I'm a bit more willing to die for freedom as I've lived a good long life.

Yeah, I have that luxury. I'd be the first to volunteer to help. I'll be glad to be cannon fodder if that's what it takes. No, I'm no longer a young guy trying to keep his family together so I can take on extremely dangerous mission. I have in the past...

I'm not simply willing to roll over and accept what the powers that be "decide" what being an American (now socialist/communist) is acceptable.

I'm with Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death."

Darn right!

Sound silly? Old fashionhed. Out of date?

Consider the alternative...?

[Charles L. Cotton]

And further, I'm a bit more willing to die for freedom as I've lived a good long life.

Yeah, I have that luxury. I'd be the first to volunteer to help. I'll be glad to be cannon fodder if that's what it takes. No, I'm no longer a young guy trying to keep his family together so I can take on extremely dangerous mission. I have in the past...

I'm not simply willing to roll over and accept what the powers that be "decide" what being an American (now socialist/communist) is acceptable.

I'm with Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death."

Darn right!

Sound silly? Old fashionhed. Out of date?

Consider the alternative...?

Consider Rule 4 while you're at it. I'm as interested in enforcing Forum rules as you are being "cannon fodder." Stop now.

Chas.

4. No posting of messages promoting illegal conduct.

[Charles L. Cotton]

I was wondering how FAA thought they had that authority.
Chas.

NTSB.
Apparently that's getting sorted out. It's kinda make-up the rules then find the authority:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... ges-ruling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've never posted my drone videos to YouTube nor do I intend to but this seems a bit of an overreach. I assume I can rent a helicopter and video my flight and post that on YouTube?

As long as you're not flying the helicopter, sure. The pilot, however:
1) Needs to be doing the flight for free. There are a very few number of circumstances where expenses could be split.
or
2) Needs to have a commercial rating or better and the helicopter is subject to "commercial" inspection standards.



The implication here is that if I post a video of a flight in which I'm a pilot and that video is connected to my adwords account, I better have a commercial rating...

Does the FAA have authority to require licensing for "pilots" of drones?

Chas.