Americans killed by released Guantanamo Terrorists

[parabelum]

In the wake of Brussels bombing, while the thin smoking man in the WH travels from one Banana republic to next, bashing America and proliferating the communist agenda, in the midst of perhaps the heaviest persecution of American Patriots in at least half of century, there is this:

"Americans have been killed by prisoners released from the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a senior Defense Department official told lawmakers Wednesday..."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 3-12-58-40

I wonder why this traitor, along with his entire staff of anti-American treasonous starry eyed liberal ignoramuses are not arrested yet for the crimes against the American people.

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."


I think BO, Jarrett and their ilk qualify.

[anygunanywhere]

The treasonous behavior started a long time ago. FDR and even before.

The curve is starting to break sharply.

[cb1000rider]

Well, the good news is that you're much more likely to be killed by someone who served time in our prison system than someone that managed to get out of Guantanamo....

[MechAg94]

Well, the good news is that you're much more likely to be killed by someone who served time in our prison system than someone that managed to get out of Guantanamo....

I have to agree with this statement. The odds of getting hurt by terrorism are extremely small compared to domestic crime. Maybe people just feel they understand the motivations for criminals better.

[parabelum]

Well, the good news is that you're much more likely to be killed by someone who served time in our prison system than someone that managed to get out of Guantanamo....

I have to agree with this statement. The odds of getting hurt by terrorism are extremely small compared to domestic crime. Maybe people just feel they understand the motivations for criminals better.

I am not sure that I understand you correctly.

Are you both saying that terrorism is not as big of deal as "domestic crime"?

What is domestic crime? Isn't terrorism when committed on our soil a form of domestic crime?

And to bring it home, just because this happened in Brussels, don't think for one second it will not happen here...again.

One nail bomb, especially in a crowded place, will make your day my friend.

I hope I just misunderstood what you stated.

[Javier730]

http://www.techjuice.pk/a-data-scientis ... st-attack/

[Javier730]

The chances of me dating a supermodel are 106 times more likely than me getting killed by a terrorist. I like those odds.

[parabelum]

So, you are more likely to date a supermodel, by a factor of 106!, then to be killed by the Jihadis, ipso facto life is good?

That my friend is reductio ad absurdum way of thinking.

Tell that to the families of 9/11 victims, or San Bernadino, or Paris, or Brussels.

Man, we are in a bad shape here folks. Better wake up.

[cb1000rider]

There's always something to worry about. If what's on your radar is that you might get killed by some sub-set of the terrorists that were released from Guantanamo, I think that *statistically* your radar needs adjustment. It's simply a very unlikely scenario.

I think that most of us are being manipulated by the media and politicians in regard to "terrorism".

Javie730 is probably 106,000x more likely to date a supermodel than get killed by an ex-Guantanamo terrorists.

For as long as I can remember, terrorism has existed in some form or fashion. The label is just being used more frequently for anyone that acts against a government. The reality is that locking up Guantanamo terrorists, without trial, indefinitely, forever, may very well create more world-wide animosity than is contained in that prison. It's like the US says one thing and does another - and what was going on there, once it was made public, is embarrassing... Especially when we are so indignified by what has happened to our solders in previous wars.

911 was awful, no doubt. And we should take steps to prevent such incidents.. I'd be much more worried about a North Korea in a few years when they figure out how to get a missile to re-enter the atmosphere... Shutting down Guantanamo or letting some prisoners out doesn't keep me up at night.

I'm point out that statistically - if you're worried about ex-prisoners impacting your personal safety, you'd be better off working to reform our justice and prison system... Recidivism is rampant and "paid your dues" isn't a real thing.

[cb1000rider]

Saying it another way:
ISIS is not an existential threat to the United States.

Your right, there may be limited success in killing US citizens, even on our own soil. I would not deny that or discount the impact on families that such tragedy touches.

However, It's probably not possible to eliminate this threat completely. I'm simply pointing out that if you're worried about your own personal safety, these risks are pretty far down the list.

[WildBill]

First of all let me state the fact that I am a grumpy old man and I am not directing my post towards any particular forum member.

The odds of me being killed by a natural born American thug are probably a thousand times higher than me being killed by a foreign born terrorist, an illegal immigrant or getting struck by lightning.

Does that mean we should not be concerned about foreign terrorists coming into the U.S. or neglect the flood of other illegal immigrants coming into the country, or that I should play golf or sail my boat during a thunderstorm?

If anyone thinks that, I think they should have their head examined by a competent shrink.

Now get off of my lawn.

[The Annoyed Man]

First of all let me state the fact that I am a grumpy old man and I am not directing my post towards any particular forum member.

The odds of me being killed by a natural born American thug are probably a thousand times higher than me being killed by a foreign born terrorist, an illegal immigrant or getting struck by lightning.

Does that mean we should not be concerned about foreign terrorists coming into the U.S. or neglect the flood of other illegal immigrants coming into the country, or that I should play golf or sail my boat during a thunderstorm?

If anyone thinks that, I think they should have their head examined by a competent shrink.

Now get off of my lawn.

You call that postage stamp a lawn?

I agree with both sides to this discussion. On the one hand, anygunanywhere is absolutely right..... the treasonous at worst or feckless beyond belief at least behavior of public officials has placed us in greater danger from terrorism than ever before. On the other hand, no matter how dire the threat, in a nation of 330 million people (or whatever the number is now), even the death of a few thousands, no matter how horrible that is to contemplate, is not an existential threat to the nation.

The REAL existential threat to the nation's future are the feckless, lying, evil, degenerate, crapulent, criminal, politicians that refuse to call evil what it is, and who would rather spy on us than on terrorists.

[Javier730]

So, you are more likely to date a supermodel, by a factor of 106!, then to be killed by the Jihadis, ipso facto life is good?

That my friend is reductio ad absurdum way of thinking.

Tell that to the families of 9/11 victims, or San Bernadino, or Paris, or Brussels.

Man, we are in a bad shape here folks. Better wake up.

What would that accomplish? Nothing at all. Not anything good at least. On the other hand, articles like the one i posted a link to can show people that only a very small fraction of Muslims are terrorists. I say Muslims when talking about terrorists because at the moment the terrorist groups that are most active according to what we see in the media are Muslims. It can show people that they don't have to be afraid of people that are different than they are. By different I mean differenence in language, clothes, beliefs, race, nationality, etc.

Am I angry that terrorists killed people on 9/11? Of course, it makes me furious, but terrorists will probably exist on earth until humans become extinct. At the moment, the odds of being killed by one are very slim. 1 in 9,300,000 according to the data scientist of that article. The chances are probably much slimmer here in the US. If we all start believing that life is not good because there is a slim chance that we might be killed by terrorists, life will never be good for us.

The odds that I date a supermodel are 106 times more likely than the odds of me getting killed by a terrorist. Call it what you want, I like those odds.

[cb1000rider]

It's nice to see that some people have actually thought about this problem and recognize that what's hyped in the media isn't necessarily aligned with real life risks.

The REAL existential threat to the nation's future are the feckless, lying, evil, degenerate, crapulent, criminal, politicians that refuse to call evil what it is, and who would rather spy on us than on terrorists.

I can get behind that. As Americans, we CAN allow our government to make us safer if we're really that scared. We can be made safer by becoming a state where the government can monitor all facets of our lives. We'll trade rights for safety. Only that incremental change in safety has very little value to those of us who recognize that ISIS terrorism is very unlikely to impact us personally on US soil. That's not to say that things won't happen here - likely they will, but you're much more likely to be impacted by other things. Focusing us and hyping up the "terror threat" isn't good for us as American citizens... We survived the communist "scare" of the 1960s where people were reporting their neighbors. We'll survive this too.

The guys that are running or economy into the ground through deficit spending - they're much more likely to ruin all of our lives.

What would that accomplish? Nothing at all. Not anything good at least. On the other hand, articles like the one i posted a link to can show people that only a very small fraction of Muslims are terrorists. I say Muslims when talking about terrorists because at the moment the terrorist groups that are most active according to what we see in the media are Muslims. It can show people that they don't have to be afraid of people that are different than they are. By different I mean differenence in language, clothes, beliefs, race, nationality, etc.

We're ending up with a whole bunch of people who are anti-Muslim. Most of them have never known a Muslim. Consider those guys that blew up Belgium. They all had extensive criminal records not related to "terrorism". Are those records typical of people with a lot of religious conviction? Sure, they can hide behind the skirts and labels of religion - and they do. Just like many Americans do - they call themselves one thing and do something different. But use your brains, folks... ISIS is an organization that takes advantage of the weak and stupid, convincing them of things that aren't true by twisting stuff out of context. It's something that again isn't new historically... And many of the rest had very little prior religious affiliation AT ALL - they just like the label because it'll attract the media.

OK, so I can't talk you out thinking that Muslims need go to. Well, in that case, know who your ally is? ISIS! That's right. They kill more Muslims than they do anyone else. They're pretty much working for you!

In the US, the most likely profile of a terrorist is a non-Muslim. In fact, I'm much more scared of one of you guys getting mad than I am of my Muslin neighbor. Why, because radical conservatives (yea, not really a conservative) are much more responsible for domestic terror than ISIS is. It'd be more wise to be concerned about your creepy neighbor than someone from ISIS.

ISIS should be considered a threat. Clearly, any organization that is willing to kill and hide behind the skirts of religion is not a good thing. You just won't catch me sweating compared to North Korea or the state of the American political system.

[Papa_Tiger]

Part of the problem is that when the incomprehensible happens (terrorist attack) we as humans don't like being helpless. We want to DO something to prevent it from happening.

Not to make light of terrorism, but just to put it in perspective:

Brussels is a town of ~1.2 Million people. This does not include the visitors, tourists, migrants or other people who may commute into the city for work on any given day. The Brussels attack killed 31 people and wounded 300, some seriously, some with just a scratch. That is 330 people directly affected by the attacks. Granted this leaves out families who lost fathers, mothers, sons and daughters, but the number who were killed or wounded pales in comparison to the number of people who are still going about their daily lives and have not been physically affected by this act of hatred.

Is it right that people kill each other because of hate? No, but we've been doing it since Cain and Abel and it won't stop any time soon.

Should we work to help prevent senseless killing and murder? Absolutely! We should not let evil stand unopposed.

Should we live in fear and give up freedom and liberty to be "protected" from people who are driven by hate and anger? NEVER!

When we are being ruled by fear, we are not living in freedom.