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It's all our fault....

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And the NRA's of course.

"In Dallas 10 days ago, Micah Johnson offered a real-world example of a law-abiding citizen taking up arms to fight what he perceived to be a government that was trampling the rights of its citizens. In reality, it looked like a bloody mass murder of a bunch of cops who were just doing their jobs.

But make no mistake: Johnson was acting on one of the central beliefs that animates the gun rights movement. It’s been called the “insurgency theory” of the Second Amendment, and it holds that Americans must have the right to own military-style weapons because a heavily armed populace is the last bulwark against a tyrannical government running amok."

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op- ... 1607170038
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They will never cease their attempt to disarm the citizens by any means necessary.
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At first, I wanted to read this article to argue a point that no way Johnson was in the right. I still believe his beliefs were not right at all. Now I did not look into the style weapon Micah had, maybe someone can correct me, but wasn't in illegal to own? Other than that, this is a well written article from my first glance. That is what the Second was written for. My question to anyone is, how would this argument hold up in court?

(I understand anyone answering my question is not legal advice, so I will not take it as advice.)
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This article is struggling to legitimize the killer by blaming his access to weapons for his crimes while sympathizing with his actions.
Our current administration in Washington, leftist politicians, and much of the media has spent the last few years attempting to undermine local police departments and officers. They have created multiple false narratives and told poor people of color that they are in danger of being murdered by police officers. They have shown multiple videos of police shootings and pushed false narratives about the circumstances of these shootings. They pick through photos of the deceased and discard the pictures with the "victim" throwing gang signs, flashing glocks and cash, and wearing grills, deeming them racist and inflammatory. They settle on a nice smiling picture of a young man wearing a graduation cap and talk about how he dreamed of working for NASA, neglecting to mention that his lengthy criminal history would have made that impossible. The also leave out the parts where he was involved in a crime and carrying a weapon or high on drugs. All the casual viewer sees is a nice young man who got "executed" by racist cops and the devastated family who was left behind. Agitators use the fact that prosecutors, tasked with proving a case where ALL the facts are laid out to the jury, couldn't convict the officers in the legal system as "proof" of a bias and inherently racist justice system.
Now, as anarchist types, mixed in with the typical disgruntled college students and professional agitators begin to act out violently, the left and the media does not want to blame them, but rather point to "societal flaws" for their ability to perpetuate violence, which they half-heartedly condemn while fully appreciating the conditions from which the violence sprouted.
This civil unrest has been cultivated by Washington and is entirely intentional. The marxist left in this country and in Washington are doing their best to stir up a leftist revolution. Cops getting executed is just the first step if the people protesting, and stirring up these protests, are not put down quickly.
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It’s not a new idea. In the aftermath of the 1994 assault weapons ban, Charles Dunlap Jr., a colonel in the U.S. Air Force, wrote in the Tennessee Law Review that the insurgency theory of the Second Amendment dates back to the Constitutional Convention of 1787. In addition to protecting the institution of slavery from the abolition movement, the right to bear arms was a key a compromise between Federalists, who favored a strong central government with a standing army, and Anti-Federalists who “had a deep distrust of professional militaries.”
......and......
Micah Johnson was what the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre might call a “good guy with a gun”.....
Jesus wept. :roll:

I just want to slap this guy.......not to hard, but just a little bit. Can I?
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
It’s not a new idea. In the aftermath of the 1994 assault weapons ban, Charles Dunlap Jr., a colonel in the U.S. Air Force, wrote in the Tennessee Law Review that the insurgency theory of the Second Amendment dates back to the Constitutional Convention of 1787. In addition to protecting the institution of slavery from the abolition movement, the right to bear arms was a key a compromise between Federalists, who favored a strong central government with a standing army, and Anti-Federalists who “had a deep distrust of professional militaries.”
......and......
Micah Johnson was what the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre might call a “good guy with a gun”.....
Jesus wept. :roll:

I just want to slap this guy.......not to hard, but just a little bit. Can I?

I'll hold him for you and give you some practice swings so that you get just the right amount of arm speed necessary to do the job appropriately. :biggrinjester:

I fully agree with karder, this is a result of the leftist regime that is in Washington, who created this whole mess, and then looking for others to blame. All of these kinds of comments help fuel further incidences by legitimizing the actions. And instead of condemning them, as they would have done if they were carried out by a right wing faction, they blame it all on either the guns, the victims, or society in general that they claim is racist. All of this takes away from the utter and complete failures of this administration, and gets everyone looking in another direction, at problems that were intentionally set into motion. The insurgency theory doesn't fly because the numbers don't add up for a tyrannical police state, bent on killing African Americans.
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Not siding with anyone, but I can jump on YouTube right now, and see hundreds of videos where the police are terrorizing, and attacking people.

To say that Washington created a narrative that has lead to this situation. The "bad cops", and the good cops who did nothing are as much responsible for the situation as Obama

I just like to see the whole picture, and not just what's fits the "narrative" I like.
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loscar141 wrote:Not siding with anyone, but I can jump on YouTube right now, and see hundreds of videos where the police are terrorizing, and attacking people.

To say that Washington created a narrative that has lead to this situation. The "bad cops", and the good cops who did nothing are as much responsible for the situation as Obama

I just like to see the whole picture, and not just what's fits the "narrative" I like.

You can also jump on Youtube and see cops protecting citizens with their own lives, saving drowning children, and providing help to victims of natural disasters. If the police were really the tyrannical government entity that the author is claiming, then we would all be up in arms. The idea that the police are somehow targeting African Americans is ludicrous, the number of whites killed by police is double that of blacks. I don't want to make any of this a racial issue, what the author is doing, is using the idea that we as Americans have the right to replace our government when it becomes tyrannical, as a justification for attacking police by nut jobs. The two are not the same.
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Nobody in their right mind would equate "good guy with a gun" with "racist cop killer."

I'd say more, but I can't do better than Karder and Jusme already have. Well said, y'all. :tiphat:
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AndyC wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I just want to slap this guy.......not to hard, but just a little bit. Can I?
Only hard slaps count, sorry.
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