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concealed carry judge carrying caught at airport screen
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:18 pm
by ejector
This is not in Texas, but still a good reminder not to get too comfortable with your carry and carry it through the airport screener.

. interesting the TSA still let her board. Also must happen a frequently if the TSA is pointing out that concealed carry folks are packing through the screening.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... 10419/1003
He said some people mistakenly believe a concealed weapons permit allows a gun through airport security. James' gun was registered and she had a concealed weapons permit.
"In this day and age there's really no excuse for not knowing you have a loaded firearm," said Traffic Safety Administration spokeswoman Ann Davis said.
The TSA could fine James up to $7,500.
James continued to her destination after the stop.
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:55 pm
by Greybeard
My parent's attorney (in Pampa) did similar several years ago. He'd forgotten revolver in briefcase. Court house guards reminded him ...

Not sure what that one cost ...
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:46 am
by jimlongley
Uh, what's the "Traffic Safety Administration"?
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:18 am
by stevie_d_64
jimlongley wrote:Uh, what's the "Traffic Safety Administration"?
You know what else is interesting...
I think its good that people are getting comfortable, and the fact that they carry under the auspices of a law that "allows"

you to do so is good...
Getting to the point where it becomes second nature to you is important, but settling into a routine like that does not allieviate you from the responsibilities of knowing whats off-limits and what is not...
And if you know your going to an airport, for whatever reason...
Alarms and sirens should be going off in your head before you get there...Right???
Just my opinion...
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:53 pm
by para driver
If the glove don't fit, you must acquit.. she'll never do a day, or pay a dollar... professional courtesy don't you know..
http://www.clickondetroit.com/image/137 ... etail.html
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:47 pm
by ejector
para driver wrote:If the glove don't fit, you must acquit.. she'll never do a day, or pay a dollar...
Another one! This one is not a judge and had an expired license.. busted!
Stupid is as stupid does..
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/page ... geId=3.2.1
TAMPA - A Hernando County woman was jailed this morning after she allegedly tried to take a loaded handgun through a security checkpoint at Tampa International Airport.
Screeners found a .38 caliber Smith & Wesson in a purse belonging to Susan True of Spring Hill around 6 a.m., airport officials said. The weapon was loaded with five rounds.
True, who owns an expired weapons permit, was charged with carrying a concealed weapon. The 56-year-old was released at noon on $2,000 bond.
Re: concealed carry judge carrying caught at airport screen
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:53 pm
by Renegade
He said some people mistakenly believe a concealed weapons permit allows a gun through airport security. James' gun was registered and she had a concealed weapons permit.
In Texas, A Judge with CHL is NOT breaking any state laws trying to pass through security with a concealed handgun.
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:42 am
by jimlongley
stevie_d_64 wrote:And if you know your going to an airport, for whatever reason...
Alarms and sirens should be going off in your head before you get there...Right???
Just my opinion...
Right, and more so if you choose to carry "off the body." Carry in a briefcase, gym bag, golf bag or whatever has a tendency to get forgotten, where if it's on your body you will have a tendency to recall its presence.
Re: concealed carry judge carrying caught at airport screen
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:47 am
by barres
Renegade wrote:
He said some people mistakenly believe a concealed weapons permit allows a gun through airport security. James' gun was registered and she had a concealed weapons permit.
In Texas, A Judge with CHL is NOT breaking any state laws trying to pass through security with a concealed handgun.
Being a judge does not exempt you from PC §46.03 (5) which prohibits carrying a weapon into the secured area of an airport. The only exemption from any part of PC §46.03 for judges is exemption from the prohibition against carrying in that judge's courtroom.
Re: concealed carry judge carrying caught at airport screen
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:30 am
by Renegade
barres wrote:Renegade wrote:
He said some people mistakenly believe a concealed weapons permit allows a gun through airport security. James' gun was registered and she had a concealed weapons permit.
In Texas, A Judge with CHL is NOT breaking any state laws trying to pass through security with a concealed handgun.
Being a judge does not exempt you from PC §46.03 (5) which prohibits carrying a weapon into the secured area of an airport. The only exemption from any part of PC §46.03 for judges is exemption from the prohibition against carrying in that judge's courtroom.
Yes it does.
§ 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
...
(4) a judge or justice of a federal court, the supreme court, the court of criminal appeals, a court of appeals, a district court, a criminal district court, a constitutional county court, a statutory county court, a justice court, or a municipal court who is licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:40 am
by Photoman
Clear as mud....as usual.
So is it saying a judge can carry in a secure area of an airport, and thus on an airplane. I find that hard to believe.
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:46 am
by Doug.38PR
Anybody else would have been detained, put in handcuffs, hauled off to jail, strip and cavity searched

(violated) and been treated like garbage until proven innocent....and even then probably would have had their CHL revoked and be put on some Homeland Security FBI potential terrorist list.
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:50 am
by Renegade
Photoman wrote:Clear as mud....as usual.
So is it saying a judge can carry in a secure area of an airport, and thus on an airplane. I find that hard to believe.
No it says they are not breaking any STATE UCW or PROHIBITED PLACE laws. Federal Laws still apply.
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:03 am
by barres
You're right, Renegade. I looked all through PC46.03 for any exceptions for judges, but overlooked PC46.15.
You're also right about it only keeping them from being prosecuted under state law. The Feds are another matter entirely.
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:47 pm
by para driver
since they are officers of the court, could they be construed as LEO?