
Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
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Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
That's cool. 

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Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
I see that Constitutional Carry in Vermont explains their extreme rate of homicides.
Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
Looks like in about 10 years Kansas went from no issue to unrestricted. That's a pretty quick 180.
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Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
Part of their evolution is also a little funny. IIRC, Kansas did not initially have preemption and many of the cities had their own ordinances that created a lot of problems. That mostly occurred after KS made OC legal. I'm remembering something about Topeka, the capital, deleting an entire section of some of their laws for whatever reason and that city's laws restricting OC were buried in there. The city officials didn't realize it until a citizen that had decided to OC within city limits and was cited or arrested for it and fought it in court. Once they determined they no longer had a law against it they dropped the charges, I think, and the city council decided to let things be to see if there would be any problems before attempting to reenact any laws prohibiting OC again. After a year or two they didn't see any issues and just left it alone. I think KS also got state preemption after that sometime, but I'm not real sure about that.jason812 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:48 pm Looks like in about 10 years Kansas went from no issue to unrestricted. That's a pretty quick 180.
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Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
I am grateful for the state preemption we have and expect the gun grabbers to target it vigorously.C-dub wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:41 pmI think KS also got state preemption after that sometime, but I'm not real sure about that.
Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
That is a good perspective on how far we've come. The fact that it is all on the state level makes it harder for the left to undo since they would have to do it one state at a time. Unlike something at the federal level.
Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
Ah, but they'll do it with federal legislation preempting state laws. That's why Trump's judicial appointments are so important, but given how deep the divide is, the tables will eventually turn, and we'll be screwed.theblaze wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:52 pm The fact that it is all on the state level makes it harder for the left to undo since they would have to do it one state at a time. Unlike something at the federal level.
Re: Evolution of the right to carry, 1986 to 2019
I agree with all of that.KLB wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:36 pmAh, but they'll do it with federal legislation preempting state laws. That's why Trump's judicial appointments are so important, but given how deep the divide is, the tables will eventually turn, and we'll be screwed.theblaze wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:52 pm The fact that it is all on the state level makes it harder for the left to undo since they would have to do it one state at a time. Unlike something at the federal level.
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