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RCP · Post by **RCP** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:07 am

The guy didn't even have a gun, but the thought that he might while taking care of some personal banking business apparently was enough to detain his family waiting in the parking lot as well as hold him on the ground at gunpoint for 30 minutes.

WFAA NEWS story here

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propellerhead · Post by **propellerhead** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:13 am

What if he was carrying? Would he be in jail by now?

Sad.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:42 am

If he had a CHL and the bank was not posted, he was not doing anything illegal.

I wonder what constitutes suspicious behavior.

The person who wrote that article doesn't know the difference between lie and lay, either.

- Jim

RCP · Post by **RCP** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:44 am

Thats what is scary to me. Who's to say this couldn't have have happened to any of us? What if we had been properly concealing and yet someone claims to have seen our gun even if they really had not?

I don't know but to me this is part of the reason I wish open carry was legal here. Perhaps if people were exposed to law abiding citizens carrying in public places doing no wrong on a regular basis it would start to lift some of the fear people have when they simply think that someone "might" be carrying a gun.

SC1903A3 · Post by **SC1903A3** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:55 am

The bank will settle out of court for a nominal amount.

RCP · Post by **RCP** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:58 am

SC1903A3 wrote:The bank will settle out of court for a nominal amount.

Do you think the police handled it properly? Sounds a bit excessive to me when the person in question isn't displaying any violent or threatening behavior and we are in a state where concealed carry is legal.

Post by **Crossfire** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:09 pm

OK, as Paul Harvey would say, now let's hear the REST of the story.

As written, this makes absolutely NO sense. What was this guy doing? And why did they think he had a gun? And, even if he did, why was that a problem???

There has to be more...

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:10 pm

RCP wrote:Who's to say this couldn't have have happened to any of us? What if we had been properly concealing and yet someone claims to have seen our gun even if they really had not?

If someone calls the police and say they see "a man with a gun," and the police show up before you leave, the police aren't going to see anything illegal.

If the person who called has hysterics and says you were waving it around, he or she had better be able to describe it.

This is where the people who have unusual revolvers, rosewood grips, etc., have an advantage. The idiot would be very unlikely to guess right.

In any case, arrest requires probable cause that you committed a crime, and it would be up to the responding police officer whether the word of one other person constituted probable cause.

- Jim

RPBrown · Post by **RPBrown** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:19 pm

The problem is they didn't "arrest" him. They just detained him.

Do I think the police acted properly? With just the information given, no. But as stated before, There has to be more to the story

SC1903A3 · Post by **SC1903A3** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:38 pm

RCP wrote:

Do you think the police handled it properly?

All things considered I would say yes the police acted properly. The next time it might and probably will be the real deal.

propellerhead · Post by **propellerhead** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:01 pm

seamusTX wrote:If he had a CHL and the bank was not posted, he was not doing anything illegal.

I agree. But considering how the incident folded out, I'm thinking they might go as far as booking him for attempted robbery or whatever they seemed to come up with.

Dougmyers5 · Post by **Dougmyers5** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:07 pm

After yesterdays deal in Odessa I am sure the LEO are on high alert to any perceived danger.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:08 pm

propellerhead wrote:But considering how the incident folded out, I'm thinking they might go as far as booking him for attempted robbery or whatever they seemed to come up with.

Well, there's no bottom limit on stupidity. But there would be no legal basis for charging someone with robbery when he was having a conversation with people who knew him, and had not made a threat or displayed a weapon.

- Jim

Supercat · Post by **Supercat** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:24 pm

I have a bank but I have not seen it in over a year.

Online banking rules!!!

Seriously are people that nieve that a person acting suspiciously is automatically a bank rober? there was no demand or action tward the bank in the article.

Contrary to sheeples opnions not all people look alike.

mcub · Post by **mcub** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:58 pm

From reading the article, I wonder is suspiciously was his havening a good time. Maybe the tellers are so used to unhappy customers that they assumed something was wrong.

As for as the cops go, thereâ€™s nothing to indicate what they where told by their dispatcher.

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