Taypo wrote:Is Nicholasville KY anywhere near a base? If he's an MP on duty, he belongs somewhere.
I can't find any information about this that gives the soldier's unit or information. That makes me question what's going on here.
He is a national guard Soldier. He is over an hour away from Knox and 3 hours from Campbell, so he might be close to a National Guard training facility. I'm not sure if he was wearing his uniform for his monthly drill or if he was wearing it just because.
I don't care if he is a Soldier or not, my only beef is that the restaurant denied service based on him practicing his right to be armed. I'll have to visit waffle house when I get back from my deployment. Might have to open carry to see if I get the same reaction.
You're military so you tell me - in what situation is it OK for him to walk into a restaurant, in uniform and carrying a sidearm? The ONLY reason this story has any legs is BECAUSE he's military. Joe Nobody doesn't get press for being kicked out of a restaurant for open carrying. The fact this guy did it IN UNIFORM makes me a little angry, considering that he had no business doing it, unless I'm missing a situation where its acceptable.
There is no reason to ever be open carrying in uniform. If he is off post and concealed it's completely fine, although I question whether he was leaving a federal facility with a weapon in his possession. If he is open carrying in uniform there is an issue. We have to adhere to regulations that govern how the uniform is worn. That includes what is attached to us. Simply put it is not authorized. I am really curious why he was in uniform in the first place.
I agree that someone like a carpenter wouldn't be making headlines in this situation. I personally don't like being anywhere outside work in uniform. I prefer a low profile as you never know who may target you. I cringe when I see guys rolling around with Army stickers all over there Windows. I really wonder why he was in uniform in the first place. Was he actually going to his weekend drill? When I get back from emergency leave next week I'll look him up on our email network and see if I can find his unit info.
On a side note, I do think I should be allowed to carry on base if I am licensed in the state I am stationed in.
Edit to add: I remembered I have been on military convoys from Fort Campbell to Fort Knox where we had armed Soldiers. This was to guard the weapons we transported only. So I guess they were open carrying, but they had courier cards authorizing the weapons and we didn't stop at Awful Waffle
That was my understanding as well - he was doing something that he shouldn't have been doing in uniform, got booted for doing it (as are regular customers from the sounds of it) and now the militants are making him a martyr. There is NO reason to waste an ounce of patriotism or sympathy on this clown - he's a disgrace to the uniform. Get fired up over a business all you want, but don't do it because he's in uniform.
JAG needs to have a talk with him if they haven't already.
Taypo wrote:Is Nicholasville KY anywhere near a base? If he's an MP on duty, he belongs somewhere.
I can't find any information about this that gives the soldier's unit or information. That makes me question what's going on here.
He is a national guard Soldier. He is over an hour away from Knox and 3 hours from Campbell, so he might be close to a National Guard training facility. I'm not sure if he was wearing his uniform for his monthly drill or if he was wearing it just because.
I don't care if he is a Soldier or not, my only beef is that the restaurant denied service based on him practicing his right to be armed. I'll have to visit waffle house when I get back from my deployment. Might have to open carry to see if I get the same reaction.
You're military so you tell me - in what situation is it OK for him to walk into a restaurant, in uniform and carrying a sidearm? The ONLY reason this story has any legs is BECAUSE he's military. Joe Nobody doesn't get press for being kicked out of a restaurant for open carrying. The fact this guy did it IN UNIFORM makes me a little angry, considering that he had no business doing it, unless I'm missing a situation where its acceptable.
There is no reason to ever be open carrying in uniform. If he is off post and concealed it's completely fine, although I question whether he was leaving a federal facility with a weapon in his possession. If he is open carrying in uniform there is an issue. We have to adhere to regulations that govern how the uniform is worn. That includes what is attached to us. Simply put it is not authorized. I am really curious why he was in uniform in the first place.
I agree that someone like a carpenter wouldn't be making headlines in this situation. I personally don't like being anywhere outside work in uniform. I prefer a low profile as you never know who may target you. I cringe when I see guys rolling around with Army stickers all over there Windows. I really wonder why he was in uniform in the first place. Was he actually going to his weekend drill? When I get back from emergency leave next week I'll look him up on our email network and see if I can find his unit info.
On a side note, I do think I should be allowed to carry on base if I am licensed in the state I am stationed in.
Edit to add: I remembered I have been on military convoys from Fort Campbell to Fort Knox where we had armed Soldiers. This was to guard the weapons we transported only. So I guess they were open carrying, but they had courier cards authorizing the weapons and we didn't stop at Awful Waffle
That was my understanding as well - he was doing something that he shouldn't have been doing in uniform, got booted for doing it (as are regular customers from the sounds of it) and now the militants are making him a martyr. There is NO reason to waste an ounce of patriotism or sympathy on this clown - he's a disgrace to the uniform. Get fired up over a business all you want, but don't do it because he's in uniform.
JAG needs to have a talk with him if they haven't already.
Disgrace might a bit harsh, but this young fella could benefit from some stern counseling from his NCOs.
"We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into
prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying
to lift himself up by the handle." -Sir Winston Churchill
It's been many a moon since I've been in a Waffle House but: IIRC, there was a more evident danger from second hand smoke than from somebody wearing a gun.
Apparently more to the story. Previously involved in a fight in the restaurant, requiring the aid of two police officers. It was also 2 am. So he may have not been "on duty".
Sounded like LEO's are allowed to carry.
Waffle House still has a ban on weapons in the restaurant.
Not sure if that means legal concealed carry or not.
Apparently more to the story. Previously involved in a fight in the restaurant, requiring the aid of two police officers. It was also 2 am. So he may have not been "on duty".
Sounded like LEO's are allowed to carry.
Waffle House still has a ban on weapons in the restaurant.
Not sure if that means legal concealed carry or not.
