So you believe, and, if I understand what you said correctly, you instructor, who is a 25 year veteran LEO, taught that one is guilty of carrying without a license until one proves that one is innocent? That is interesting!Locksmith wrote:I have come to believe that nothing that happens in a court of law is logical.by Morgan on Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:03 pm
I wouldn't want to be the test case. I understand logically where you're going.
I will stick with what my instructor who has been a Police Officer for 25 years, who (also trains other police officers, military, judges, district attorneys, etc) made very clear multiple times during my class: "During any contact with a law enforcement officer in which you show your id to that officer... your CHL better be together with it, even if your are not carrying", "If you don't... it could be up to YOU to prove that you were not carrying at that time." Good luck with that!
Cover Your Butt! Always show it whether asked or not. As soon as he runs your name, the dispatcher will likely say something like: "Mr. Soandso has no wants or warrants... but Mr. Soandso does hold an active CHL." Now, If you didn't tell him (if it wasn't with you) or show it to him, he CAN and WILL send a form to DPS to suspend your license for failing to disclose or display it to him.
I know I wont be risking my license :)
Scott
ID and CHL question
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Re: ID and CHL question
IMHO there needs to be a couple more answers.
"If the situation appears to warrant it, I would produce both ID and CHL."
"I would sit with my hands on the wheel and overhead light on until the officer approached the car and then produce ALL."
During a couple of ride-alongs the officers I went with told me they were much more comfortable with a driver who sat calmly and waited than one who scrabbled around out of view.
When I was in a wreck a couple of years ago, I was out of the car trying to cough up a lung from the airbag smoke when the officer approached, knowing that he would want DL, POI, and CHL, I had them in my hand. He thanked me, asked me if I was carrying and where ("DON'T POINT!") and handed my CHL while laughingly telling me that he thought I was shaking too hard to be much of a threat.
"If the situation appears to warrant it, I would produce both ID and CHL."
"I would sit with my hands on the wheel and overhead light on until the officer approached the car and then produce ALL."
During a couple of ride-alongs the officers I went with told me they were much more comfortable with a driver who sat calmly and waited than one who scrabbled around out of view.
When I was in a wreck a couple of years ago, I was out of the car trying to cough up a lung from the airbag smoke when the officer approached, knowing that he would want DL, POI, and CHL, I had them in my hand. He thanked me, asked me if I was carrying and where ("DON'T POINT!") and handed my CHL while laughingly telling me that he thought I was shaking too hard to be much of a threat.
Real gun control, carrying 24/7/365