Fatal MPD Shooting

[EEllis]

Which is why cameras, while they may be helpful in some situations, aren't a panacea.....and can even lead to false conclusions. Honestly, I can't tell much at all from the video because the resolution is insufficient to see the most relevant elements.

Holy Crap we agree on something! !

[EEllis]

There's little question, from the video, that his hands were above his head when he was shot. If he had a knife in his hand, from that position (hands above his head), he could attack an officer very quickly. Since he had already killed a man with the knife, it's not unreasonable to believe that he would use it to kill again. Given that, and the lack of fine detail in the video, it's impossible for me to say if he moved forward or flinched or made any sort of movement that might indicate an attack in the officers' minds. Let the investigation begin, but I suspect this is a good shoot.

Some recent incidents of this nature have me wondering. Is it possible that the Tueller drill is influencing the actions of police officers? After all, if you know about the 21 foot rule and/or you've watched any video of the drill being demonstrated, it should make you very wary of being anything closer than 21 feet to an armed suspect. I would hate for an officer to be unaware of that drill and end up with a slit throat or a knife to the heart because he got too close.

Edit: I timed the encounter. The officers yelled commands at the suspect for 13 seconds before the first shot was fired.

I'll tell you what from watching videos from the force science institute, I'm on my phone or I would give better info, I've seen video where a person has their hands up then draws a gun shoots and turns and runs. Having a gun drawn and aimed most people still end up shooting the guy in the back. Basically if they decide to act then you are already behind.