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Gun store/range near you
http://thesharpshooter.com/index.php

It looks they have gun rentals for $10 also, so you can try before you buy.

Hint, if you can't find a Glock 19, ask for a Glock 23. They are the same size, so you can at least get a feel how it fits your hands.
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I'd take the Sig myself.
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...having a pair of what you carry has many advantages...
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Sig quality must have gotten a lot worse lately. And Glocks must have gotten a lot better.
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RSJ wrote:Choice A, the Glock.
MY reasoning= Quality Control, Sheer # of people/LEO that use that weapon with a proven background, ease of available parts/mags, (personal) reliability (so far i'm 4/4 of Glocks working 100% and 0/1 on sigs working 100%)

Got to thinking... I think QC has got to be fine on both. Remember SEALS, Secret Service, Texas Rangers carry a SIG P226. It come down to personal preference. I can't imagine these groups carrying anything not 100%. If the Glock works better for you/fits your hand better, go for it. But I would find it hardto believe their QC iis sub par.
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RSJ wrote:Choice A, the Glock.
MY reasoning= Quality Control, Sheer # of people/LEO that use that weapon with a proven background, ease of available parts/mags, (personal) reliability (so far i'm 4/4 of Glocks working 100% and 0/1 on sigs working 100%)
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Just my opinion again, but from my own experience and talking with various owners, sellers, IDPA shooters, etc... If you were to give me the numbers and data on reliability, I would place a bet that Glock > Sig. This is not to say that the older Sig's were not top-notch. However, besides the Gen 4 recoil spring issue, I can't think of another serious problem with any Glock I've ever seen/shot.
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One common thing that I did notice with the sights. All that went flying had the US patent number on them. The Mags had a plastic base plate that broke off.
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RSJ wrote:Just my opinion again, but from my own experience and talking with various owners, sellers, IDPA shooters, etc... If you were to give me the numbers and data on reliability, I would place a bet that Glock > Sig. This is not to say that the older Sig's were not top-notch. However, besides the Gen 4 recoil spring issue, I can't think of another serious problem with any Glock I've ever seen/shot.
Quote from a SWAT officer (through a simple search, take it FWIW)
hey functioned great beside sights falling off and mags falling apart.

Sig 1911 Nitron rail.
40 issued
5 front sights (fell off)
7 rear sights (fell off)
about 30 magazines (fell apart)
One common thing that I did notice with the sights. All that went flying had the US patent number on them. The Mags had a plastic base plate that broke off.
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What about the Glock 19 and it's infamous "Phase Three" Malfunctions?
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My Glocks were all Gen 2s and they all had reliability problems. I got rid of the 9mms but I still have the G21. It works fine now but it had to go back to the factory twice before they got it right.
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im a huge glock fan and carry the g19. With that said, i would go with an older gen 3 19 (pre 2010). This is my opinion, but i dont feel the kinks have been worked out of the gen 4 9mm glocks. They have issued fixes but from what i have been reading, it still not a go in my book.
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Well, I have finally decided. Going with the Sig. Exact model is E2022-9-BBS.

A friend of mine will see a friend of his (Dealer & FFL) later today to see what price/shipping they can come up with.

If they can't come up with something, I will order through the internet, probably Bud's Gun Shop.
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StewNTexas wrote:Well, I have finally decided. Going with the Sig. Exact model is E2022-9-BBS.

A friend of mine will see a friend of his (Dealer & FFL) later today to see what price/shipping they can come up with.

If they can't come up with something, I will order through the internet, probably Bud's Gun Shop.
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